June 16, 2025 • 4 mins
Labour’s trade spokesman takes umbrage when asked why his party is playing “wait and see” with its agriculture policy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well today has been all round rather too nice really,
no arguments at all, so I thought I'd finish the
show today with an argument with this man, Damian O'Connor,
Labour's trade spokesperson. But Damien, you stood me up. Thanks
for coming on at the eleventh hour. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, just some of the year. It seems to be
fog around the place and unfortunately a lot of planes
I think in different places because of the cold, were grounded.
So it's supposed to take off a sex thirty five
and finally got off at about eleven. So a bit
frustrating one of those days.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, so I missed you at field Days. Joe Luxton
was crook. I had a yarn to Chippy the Boss.
Why are we still playing a waiting game to see
your ag policy? Are you just going to play wait
and see? Hang on, hang on, let me finish the question.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Invite me to speak to you. Are you not as
around you, Jamie. Everyone was nodding their head.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Nodding and nodding their head in agreement with.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You, and you and you nodding as well. It was
all you know, It was this great but the echo
chamber of the year, just in inside the pavilion.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Here's my question, why are we playing wait and see
for you guys to get some egg policy out of here.
You're not going to get voted in minde, if we
believe the Federated Farmer's poll DayMen, they had Labor at
three percent, Greens at two percent, to Party maor at
one percent between the opposition, you could only muster six
percent of the farmer's vote.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Why bother, We'll just wait for the pole next year
and then we'll see what happens. And you know, I
mean that there might be a whole lot of people,
you know, feeling good about that the farmer pole. Ultimately,
that's the pole at the election time, and there's a
lot of people out there quite grumbly about.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What absolutely and Labour seems to be doing quite well.
I'm not taking that away from you, but you're not
going to get any votes from the rural community. The
farming set.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, I'm not too sure about that. There was a
thousand people polled. I'm not sure how the said Farmer's
pole that, you know. But anyway, without getting into that,
I know there's a lot of people who are a
bit confused about what the government is saying to agriculture.
I mean there are a lot of positive announcements will
you know seen be positive by the government at the
(02:04):
field days, and I acknowledge the uptake of wall carpets
is great to investigat him by diversity, but there wasn't
too many details with some of those announcements, so you know,
lots of hype and hope. We just need to see
what is delivered and I think a lot of farmers
wanted to see us.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Do you think that the primary sector penny has finally
dropped for you guys in labor and chip. He's a
bit of a pragmatist. I'll give him credit for that
in terms of the importance of the primary sector to
the New Zealand economy. Sixty million dollars Stamien.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
They announced the Sophie. It didn't quite get to sixty
billion dollars. Great to see that export revenue. You know,
actually through COVID and through our time in government, we
had steadily increasing export revenue because we were prepared to
take on Bovis and try and sort that out for
the primary sector. We kept all of those industries going
except forestry.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
No, no, don't, don't, don't, don't live on past glories. Damien,
stop living on past glories. He Walk would have shut
farming down, and he walk Echanoa would have shut farming down.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh, Jamie, that's got you make some ridiculous statements, he Walk.
Echino would probably that one opportunity where we gave to
primary industry leaders the opportunity to grapple with the challenge
of climate change. How we meet our emissions. This governor
has said, oh, the ETS is going to solve it
and some technology, but we don't want people planting trees.
(03:34):
So they're in a muddle when it comes to our emissions.
And the technology is still some way down the track.
So if you're happy to write out a check in
twenty thirty, and I don't think most keywis are, then
we've got to get on and do something.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Let's just finish on a comment from Steve Abel, the
greensag spokesperson, and doesn't he look like a Green agricultural
spokesperson as well? But I shouldn't be judgmental, and he
made a good point Q and A. He said, well,
we can't plant our way out of pollution with pine trees,
and I think that's something you and I can agree on.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But that's what the government has proposed. All they have
talked about by way of reducing our emissions or meeting
our international obligations is to have more trees through the ets.
It's crazy. They've got themselves into a pickle and they
need to explain how they're going to get themselves out
of it.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, maybe only the return of a labor government with
the Party Marion the Greens can save farming, Damien. That
would be good. That would be something to look for me.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's the one time I agree with is one sensible
statement you've made to say that if you look through
history and look at the major changes have been made
to the benefit of agriculture that been made under labor government,
there we go
Well today has been all round rather too nice really,
no arguments at all, so I thought I'd finish the
show today with an argument with this man, Damian O'Connor,
Labour's trade spokesperson. But Damien, you stood me up. Thanks
for coming on at the eleventh hour. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, just some of the year. It seems to be
fog around the place and unfortunately a lot of planes
I think in different places because of the cold, were grounded.
So it's supposed to take off a sex thirty five
and finally got off at about eleven. So a bit
frustrating one of those days.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, so I missed you at field Days. Joe Luxton
was crook. I had a yarn to Chippy the Boss.
Why are we still playing a waiting game to see
your ag policy? Are you just going to play wait
and see? Hang on, hang on, let me finish the question.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Invite me to speak to you. Are you not as
around you, Jamie. Everyone was nodding their head.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Nodding and nodding their head in agreement with.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You, and you and you nodding as well. It was
all you know, It was this great but the echo
chamber of the year, just in inside the pavilion.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Here's my question, why are we playing wait and see
for you guys to get some egg policy out of here.
You're not going to get voted in minde, if we
believe the Federated Farmer's poll DayMen, they had Labor at
three percent, Greens at two percent, to Party maor at
one percent between the opposition, you could only muster six
percent of the farmer's vote.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Why bother, We'll just wait for the pole next year
and then we'll see what happens. And you know, I
mean that there might be a whole lot of people,
you know, feeling good about that the farmer pole. Ultimately,
that's the pole at the election time, and there's a
lot of people out there quite grumbly about.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
What absolutely and Labour seems to be doing quite well.
I'm not taking that away from you, but you're not
going to get any votes from the rural community. The
farming set.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, I'm not too sure about that. There was a
thousand people polled. I'm not sure how the said Farmer's
pole that, you know. But anyway, without getting into that,
I know there's a lot of people who are a
bit confused about what the government is saying to agriculture.
I mean there are a lot of positive announcements will
you know seen be positive by the government at the
(02:04):
field days, and I acknowledge the uptake of wall carpets
is great to investigat him by diversity, but there wasn't
too many details with some of those announcements, so you know,
lots of hype and hope. We just need to see
what is delivered and I think a lot of farmers
wanted to see us.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Do you think that the primary sector penny has finally
dropped for you guys in labor and chip. He's a
bit of a pragmatist. I'll give him credit for that
in terms of the importance of the primary sector to
the New Zealand economy. Sixty million dollars Stamien.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
They announced the Sophie. It didn't quite get to sixty
billion dollars. Great to see that export revenue. You know,
actually through COVID and through our time in government, we
had steadily increasing export revenue because we were prepared to
take on Bovis and try and sort that out for
the primary sector. We kept all of those industries going
except forestry.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
No, no, don't, don't, don't, don't live on past glories. Damien,
stop living on past glories. He Walk would have shut
farming down, and he walk Echanoa would have shut farming down.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh, Jamie, that's got you make some ridiculous statements, he Walk.
Echino would probably that one opportunity where we gave to
primary industry leaders the opportunity to grapple with the challenge
of climate change. How we meet our emissions. This governor
has said, oh, the ETS is going to solve it
and some technology, but we don't want people planting trees.
(03:34):
So they're in a muddle when it comes to our emissions.
And the technology is still some way down the track.
So if you're happy to write out a check in
twenty thirty, and I don't think most keywis are, then
we've got to get on and do something.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Let's just finish on a comment from Steve Abel, the
greensag spokesperson, and doesn't he look like a Green agricultural
spokesperson as well? But I shouldn't be judgmental, and he
made a good point Q and A. He said, well,
we can't plant our way out of pollution with pine trees,
and I think that's something you and I can agree on.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But that's what the government has proposed. All they have
talked about by way of reducing our emissions or meeting
our international obligations is to have more trees through the ets.
It's crazy. They've got themselves into a pickle and they
need to explain how they're going to get themselves out
of it.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, maybe only the return of a labor government with
the Party Marion the Greens can save farming, Damien. That
would be good. That would be something to look for me.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
That's the one time I agree with is one sensible
statement you've made to say that if you look through
history and look at the major changes have been made
to the benefit of agriculture that been made under labor government,
there we go
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