Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Black Fat Fem Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio
and Doctor John Paul LLC. Hey everyone, welcome to another
episode of the Black Tufts and podcast, where all the
intersections of adity are celebrated. I am one of your hosts,
John also known as Doctor John Paul. And while my
back is in fact aching and my pants may be
too tight, my booty is in fact shaking from left

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to right. How are you, my love? Not? My back
is aching?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
My brother to sign my booty shake?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Ah, fam, it is Jordan aka Joe Hell your camera
colored queen.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm gonna ask you a question. Do you know how
waggie will wall two.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Will watcygular Share and my King Stanley Tucci had to
be a scene where a Share commands Mistacular to do
a wag and wall two sea And to this day,
I don't, John, I don know what it is.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I saw her do it, but like, what is the
way again?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
The wheeling does the TOOI so wait for those of
you who are watching on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Isn't it when you do your hands like this?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
That's the wagon?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
That might be what what she did, though that's not
what she did. She is like not what she did.
She did she gave us forward? She gave us chair work.
I just want to know what was the SI what
was the wagen wheel? I'm like, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
We are on stage in the chair wag. And everyone
says that movie ruined Christina's career. No, it did not
ring her career. No, I am that and that. Uh
what was when she was a robot? What was the
name of that album?

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Oh yeah, Bionic Ionic.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
They said I'm a super bitch. Not my jam though.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
That was my jam though when.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
She had the Oh gosh, we're going back so far.
Remember when Verizon had that song as one of the commercials. Yeah, chocolate.
Yet you were, y'all, weren't there for those of you
you're listening, y'all, weren't there. You had to beat it.
It was a certain time where your phones would slide
up and you had a party keyboard. The way I
would be texting on that party keyboard per texts, protext

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unless you had you unless you got.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
CMT mobile, you had you get them. You have the
the my face top five I was. I had free
minutes and text for five people. And the way my
friends were like a my top five, I was like, no,
I'm so sorry. I'm I have parents and siblings. You're
gonna be You're You're not gonna be the person I
text him, So it's it's not gonna be you.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry for your loss, but
it's not really you. What a moment with that big
said family. I am so thrilled to introduce today's guests
because they have been with me since the inception of
this show. Like they literally were in the trenches with
us while we were trying to get this show sold.

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They've been to the turches with me trying to get
this book. So they have literally been They literally have
been there. They are the ones that have been there
since the beginning. And when I say that, one thing
for me that it's been so exciting and I love
that me and Joho have the same idea in mind.
They were the first person that came to mind when
we started talking about expanding the guest on this show.
And so, as we've told you all before, the world

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of black fatfem is getting bigger because we're recognizing that
it can't just be us talking about the collective struggle.
There are others that we need to include in this
conversation as well, and so with that being said, one
of the first guests that in our expansion of our
universe that is coming to you all. She's an actor,

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she's a producer. Her not a producer, a produce her
and writer. Me and her have been on many calls
writing together talking about our scripts. Honey. She's also a mother,
a certified baddie and the best has the best brows
in the gang period.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Please give it up for the wonderful and the incomparable.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
My sister, Jessica Marie Garcia, how are you, my love?

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Oh my god, I love you so much. You're gonna
make me cry.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh gosh. No, don't beat no crying around here. It's
all celebration. We're so happy you're here. Thank you for coming.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
No, this is such an honor.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
I think you make magic happen all the time, like
you think of something and then you just make it happen.
And I'm truly inspired by you and your drive. So
I'm just I'm just thankful you let me hop on.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
You know, me and Joe Ho you were literally the
first name that came up in our roundabout of other
you know, folks who don't identify as black Fat fam
we were like, you know, who can we invite on
to talk.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
About I got two out of the three?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
You got two of the three. I know that's right.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
As John says your name, I immediately was like because
and as I told you, as I told you in
the in the pre show, Jess, I'm I am a
bit stratstruck myself because I have been a narrow by
you since watching you and Huge, which people don't understand.
That is a niche show that to me, the should
should should should should not be named because there's a
show that was a product of its time.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
We don't have to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
But I'm huge and how with a murder and of
course on my block where you played my favorite character
that I live to see on screen, but also watching
your journey into more creative work in parenthood. So truly,
I am so grateful the chance to talk with you today.
And we gotta kick out for a show like we
always do us every yard, good girl, Miss Tisha Campbell
with our steel here segment.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm see here here.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yes, yes, yes, knowing that we are in the midst
of history black Heart Stray Month, and knowing that we
have a fierce comrade in our in the work today
with us, and it's jazz to ask y'all, what are
we doing to protect in advance black history this year?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I'll go first, We'll pass to our guests and then the John.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
So I'll say for me first of all, Like as
Eastern Ray has always said, I I'm bringing for everybody black.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's just it for me.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like I'm very black, butever if a black person is
being attacked in the place I'm depending that, I'm so sorry.
But like I am not here to bring down black
people in my life. I'm not here to do platform.
I'm not here. I'm not here to do center except
when your west I will have to gotta go. I
will gotta gotta gotta go. Besides that, anybody else I am,

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I'm here.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
For but I mean but truly, like I think, for me,
I relieve.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
This this year, especially with knowing how our administration is
changing everything, I really want to focus on how can
I like, like like share more moments of black history
within my local area, Like I live in an area
that he actually was historically black, and so I want
to discover and share that with people. I want to
go into the communities, the commus that still have strong

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black so strong about presence, about how that presence can
be seen more.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I want to. I want to share images.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
And videos of of gas Samp, which used to be
the hollum of the West, like I want I want.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
To really preserve the legacy that has happened here.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
And in my saying I want to, I want to
you not like it's just me that there are people
who are doing that work.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I want to connect with them and uplift them and.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Share them and their work that they have done legacy,
advance it more because we know that the next four
years black history will not be the same, and so
I'm gonna do my I'm gonna do my damn is
to make sure that in my in my.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
City, it will be.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
It will be not just the same, it will be
more so. It will be celebrated, uplifted, regale, seen as beautiful,
scene as art, scene as powerful.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
So that's that's why I'm finanzo. That's confidence.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
But how do I chow jazz?

Speaker 7 (07:54):
No?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
I mean I feel exactly the same, especially for not
being black.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
I think it's.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Really important for me to my platform to celebrate black
excellence and black history because it is American history.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
It's part of my history.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
And especially to my daughter because now that she's growing
up in this world, I don't know what she's.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
Going to be taught on. My story today, there was
a window that I took a photo.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Of, and it's ridiculous that I took a photo of
it because I thought, Wow, that's rare now is that
it was full of black history, like celebration, like pictures
and everything, And I.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
Was like, I didn't think I was going to see that.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
When we got her calendar and it was had Valentine's Day,
I was like, where does it say Black History Month?
Because it's like, now we have to be so specific
with where we're taking our kids. So for me, it's
celebrating that with my daughter as well, because I mean,
the first thing we teach a child is color, right,
So that was her first thing she's starting to when

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she talks about someone, she's just like, oh, she'll talk
about skin color first. And it's important for me that
I need to teach her how beautiful that is and
how powerful that is. So many of my friends of
color have like educated me and given me books to
really help lead her on her way.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
Whether that's race or whether that's gender.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
And for me, it's just helping the next generation to
give them the correct history and to help them, you know,
support people that don't look like them.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, oh that's that's real. And you know it's it's
interesting because you know, you speak, you're speaking something since
you're speaking to something that often folks like to shy
away from. It's this notion of oh, I don't see
color or I don't you know, and it's like we
we can't none of these conversations we can have without
naming the idea that there is this this kind of

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I would say, there's just this linearness of like it's
white and then the lighter you are, and then it
becomes the darker you are and so and how that
impacts and how that's going to impact your life. Right,
there's there's something to be said, like I I can
never not do my work without naming that. There is
a lot of privilege around even both me and Joho
because we're light skinned, right, people feel more comfortable with us.

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Even in our bigger bodies, people still feel more comfortable
around us because of our lighter skins. And so I
think it's imperative, And I think it's really cool that you,
as a parent you know this, and that you're putting
that in front of the baby, you know now, so
that way we're not having to worry about her having
to unlearn all the stuff that she's going on the
top when she gets older. So I love that to

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that point, I think for me, you know, I don't.
I've been doing my best to try to be humble
in this facet of you know, releasing a book, and
so when you ask this question, I was like, my god,
this question is so hard. But I think a part
of me that I will stand in and then I'm
so proud of is that even though I don't write
for outlets the way that I used to write for them,

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there is still this long history of articles that I
can pull whenever someone asks me a question, I'll go, oh,
I wrote about that in twenty seventeen, or I wrote
about that in twenty nineteen. Now, and you know, and
now I'm getting a lot of questions about visibility and
television and now I'm saying, oh, I have a book
getting ready to come out talking exactly about that. So
it's for me how I'm manifesting it and how I'm
kind of upholding this notion of black history. It's making

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sure that these stories don't get lost and making sure
that too in a world that is really trying to
erase the language, because that's really what's happening, what folks
don't seem to understand. And it's not just a black issue,
it's not just a queer issue, it's everybody issue. These
systems are really doing their best to try to eradicate

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and get rid of language for us to understand who
we are and what we've been through. And I think
it's really cool that there are still people out here
like myself that are writing scripts, that are writing books,
that are writing articles, that are saying, even with this,
you know what's the word with this administration, we're still
going to make sure because I mean, is it really

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an administration? Like it really is just it's a circus
at this point. But all that to say, right, Like,
I think it's just really really cool that we have
so many people that are committed to making sure that
these histories and these stories, and that's why I think
like sixteen nineteen was so important, that whole the documentary
is the book, like everything about that was so important

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because a lot of that we didn't know and also
too likes And this is what I've been saying, and
I'm so happy that Jessica, you're here with us, because
as much as we're talking about this being Black History Months,
a lot of Black issues correlate to the issues that
LATINX folks are having. Like I'm hearing so many Black
people talk about immigration in a way that I've never

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heard them talk about in the last few years. And
so it's like, as much as we you know, I'm
a true believer that all oppression is connected. Regardless of
who you are, if you're marginalized, it's going to impact
you one way or another. And so it's just really
cool that we can be in community with you around that.
But with that being said, i know we've said a
lot already in our first segment, So we're going to
jump into our category. But before we do that, and

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now that we've preserved a bit of Black history, we
need to take a moment to preserve ourselves. So we're
gonna take them take a moment. We're gonna grab a snack,
and we're gonna come right back. And when we come back,
we're gonna take some time to chat with our girl
Jessica Marie more in a second. Okay, so we are backfam,

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and I'm really excited to get into our conversation today
because what I think we're talking about, and I think
even though we haven't really named it, it's still present
in this conversation, is this idea of how to move
away from just allyship being kind of the bottom of
you know, kind of the bottom expectation at this point,

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anyone who listens to the show, we think of you
as an as an ally. But I think there's still
a point and there's still some space to have conversations
with folks around what it means to be an accomplice
in our accomplice in our community, and then also thinking
about this idea of what it means to represent different
communities in different experienceiences as we kind of proceed and

(14:02):
move through all of the terrible stuff that's coming our way.
So with that being said, me and Johove kind of
curated some questions that we again, and we've said this before,
we're not trying to put you on the spot, because
I do recognize how it can be a lot to
take these questions on but we definitely would love to
get in, you know, kind of get into your mind
outside of the amazing media work that you do, and

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ask a couple of questions. And so what we've been
asking or what we wanted to ask you today is one,
what has community felt like for you, especially living in
a space where as much as people think La is
like everybody loves everybody and it's so fun to live here,
it often can feel very secluded and you can feel

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very much on your own or in your own box.
And then the other question we wanted to ask you,
you know, where are places, cities, spaces within Los Angeles
where you feel like communities are really working together?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And whom?

Speaker 7 (15:00):
Then, oh these are that accent was very good.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yes, moonlight is wands?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Oh my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
Well those are such great questions. I think.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
It's been an interesting journey for me trying to find
community because I feel like I don't check a lot
of boxes that I think people think I should. In
this India's Latina, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Fluent in Spanish.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
I didn't grow up with anela that was teaching me
how to make dorthias from scratch or anything like that,
Like I had a very different like childhood. I grew
up in Orlando, which for me at the time was
a lot of lack of culture.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
Culture. There was tourism, you know. I didn't grow up
in Miami.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
So when I got here, I feel like, because I'm
half Cuban, half Mexican, so I grew up with my
Cuban side. But when I got here, I like I
felt like I was. I was like in Willy Wonka,
Like I was like, oh my god, these are people
that like understand me on a level that I didn't
even know myself. Like I just recently traveled to I
recently was city for the first time, and we went

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to the Anthropology Museum.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
I know, I know, and.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I was beautiful.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
It's like, to me, it's like La and New York
had a Latino baby, and it's that's.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Literally what I have said. That's literally what I have said.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
We see each other and your nails and a close up.
But I've been watching, I've been watching. But we went
to the museum and they were talking about how important
like black Opsitian and hummingbirds were to like Mayan culture.
And when I and I was like, oh my god.

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I always wear a hummingbird ring and a black obsidian ring.
And I did not know that it had the connections
to my roots that it did so as.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Some ancestry girl, as the ancestors.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Yeah, and it told me so much that, like, it
doesn't matter what other people think. It doesn't matter when
anyone else is going to say about how Latino I am.
Like I found that community in a much deeper sense
than I guess, like necessarily people that are surrounding me.
Because don't get me wrong, there's nothing more Latino than
talking about other Latinos.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
Like that's just it, Like that's.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Just it's nothing more black than talking about other black people. Yeah,
me and Jojo do it daily.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
Yeah, it's ingrained in us.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
It's like one of these things where it's like, you know,
I'm just not interested in seeking out that kind of
validation because I'm never gonna get it. My Spanish is
never going to be good enough. I'm never gonna be
enough of whatever for certain people. So I'm just trying
to be like authentically myself. And if that's not doesn't work.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
For you, I get it.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
But like I can't pretend to be somebody I'm not
in my everyday life.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
You know on TV, I.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Can, I do it very well, but like you know,
I don't want to do I don't want to do
that in my everyday life.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
So community has been interesting. I think I found a
really good especially like women.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
I feel like I found a lot of good latinos
around me that are moms that are also actors that
are like that have helped kind of guide me through
a lot of my questions and bumps through this road.
But what was the second question?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I was just asking the idea around what is it?
What does it mean to work together in community?

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Well, to me, it's everything. It's the only way we
get anything done.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
I think even if we go as far as like
the boycotts that are happening right now, like those are
really helping. I think once we realize the power we
have as a group, and if we stop trying to
fight within.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
And against our own causes.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
I'm hoping that happens sooner than later because I do
have a child. But it's just it's I think it's
going in the right direction. Unfortunately, it's taken a lot
of issues and a lot of like it's it's almost
gotten to the last resort you know.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
That we've had to band together, which which really sucks.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
And I know we're going to get into colorism and
my community specifically later, but that to me.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Is like one of my like biggest.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
It's hard, like it's hard to say like what it is,
but it's something that bothers me to my core that
I am trying to push to talk about, to ask
questions about, because I feel like my community in that
respect is so lost and disappoints me so often.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
That that's a hill that I would die on.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Honestly saying, I hear you wholeheartedly, very much the same you.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Know you talking about community makes you think like there
are two they are really there are.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Two really amazing LITEX shows. I really loved when they
were on It was.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
On my block and Hymphified, and I feel like those
shows really just like like explore so much of what
you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I really explore the idea of communities rolling together.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
And I really love I love John you saying up
the question like this, because the framework for allies ship
into accomplish ship is when that you taught me a
decade ago when we were when we were when we
were moving first SMAT and It's amazing to know that
premwork still exists and that that we still discussed today
because I think people I don't think people are actually
on that like vibe yet stale. I think people still

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are like focused on the allies and not being encompassed
and not being compassed.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
And the difference between that is like people who.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Just listen to podcasts or post about protests, the difference
between them or the.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
People who are going to the protests.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
People who are people who are choosing to you know,
to like shield people for eyes, or shield black folks
from belieze, to stand in front of them to you know,
help help save save us from the age.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's what compass looks like.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
And so I I I appreciate just your like dive
and you're like your expiation to figure out what that
really means for yourself now. And also to have communian
and finding community because it is such is such a
challenging thing to do and find. And I was usually
talking with my Rabbi about the idea of like who
like who makes you?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Who? Who?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
How how does community affirm you and your identities? Or
or like how like how how does it break you?
Or how does it ruin you. You know, at what
level are what level cant community is affirm us or
what level can they actually be power of a downfall?
You know what communities, what community is the right community
to affirm you or not as well? So I think,
you know, like I'm thinking about all these things because

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I think also like you're you need to point about
colorism within the within the left of the community as well,
and like that's when that we experience in the black
community too, it's experience and so in so many communities,
like colorism is such a prevalent and basive experience and
some community. So it's just it's like nin any other
a lot of those pieces. And you brought up your
child's which is a great set into my question because

(22:09):
you're the mother of a beivil child and I cannot
imagine that things coming up about raising her this moment
in time, like we are a time where we know
that women's rights and by the economy, trans writes are
just under a microscope and safety is a huge question.
So I really, what are things that parenthood is teaching

(22:32):
about yourself? And how are you thinking of raising her
to be standing up for what's to wright?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Like you are.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
It's so it's so hard because it keeps me up
at night, Like I literally lose so much sleep over
thinking about the world that she's going to grow up in,
and I see what an EmPATH she is and how
much she feels. Like just yesterday, I got into an
argument with my mom and an argument not even but
you know how Latinos talk to each other, there's a

(23:05):
deformation in the voice.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yes, you know exactly.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
She was like, and she was like, Mama, don yell
and ma ya ya, and she was like and she
comes and she hugs us together, and it just made
me want to cry because it was like the first
time she And it's something that I'm so cautious.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
With with my husband, like we can argue in front
of her. I don't want to see that.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
But I didn't think about that, and other relationships too,
So it's things that I'm constantly like, please don't f her.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
Up, Please don't for her up.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Like so I'm constantly and like another example is the
other day I wanted to put this tiara on her
and she was like no, and I was like okay,
and she was like no, I'll wear it, I'll wear it.
And I was like no, no, no, no, you're not
gonna wear this just because I wanted you to wear it,
Like she saw that, I got sad and then she.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
Was like, no, I'll wear it. And I don't want
to do that to her too.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
So it's constantly trying to be aware of like the
things you say and like you know what I mean.
It's just really important to me that I'm not the
first person to judge her. I'm not the first person
to show her like anger or like you know that
those type of feelings.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
It's it's something that like literally it keeps.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Me up at night, so putting her out Now she's
three and she's going to preschool and like she's out
into the world.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
I can only shield her from so much.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
So for me, it was really it's really important for
me to read her every night, different books written by
different people, Like I have a lot of books that
I would think that a lot of little black girls
would have or little black boys would have, because it's
something that's teaching them about like their history.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
But I need her to know that's also her history.
That yes, it's saying.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
That that you know, white people had done things that
were wrong, but she needs to know that you know,
it's it's it's shielding her from things, but also not
shielding her from like certain truths, Like she needs to
know that it's important for me for her to see
someone in a wheelchair before it's in person, and she's like,
but what's that.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
I don't want her to know that.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
So when we're looking at books and there's a child
in the wooch, I'm do you know this is a
wheelchair because people have different abilities. Some people can't walk,
some people need to walk, or some people like people
aren't And she'll tell you, like if you go and baby,
all skin is and she'll go beautiful, because like it's
so important for me for her to like understand before.
It's just like, you know, because when you don't know things.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
You get fearful, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
And I don't want her to ever feel that because
I shielded her from the world.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
So it's like a give and take.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
And then like it was really important to me to
give her a gender neutral middle name, because if that
is a journey that she chooses to go on, I
want her to know that we were already on board
for that, you know, right, So to then have to
be in a world where.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
That could be even more difficult for her. Is like.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
It's an endless cycle of am I doing the right thing?
Am I teaching her the right thing? Am I doing enough?
But for me, that's okay as long as I see
the person that she's growing up to be, because she's happy,
because she's like sweet and she's caring, and I know
I'm doing the right thing.

Speaker 7 (26:02):
But you're you're always questioning it. You're always questioning it.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, but it does.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
It does also push me to like fight for to
be actually there like it was. It's important to me
to go to the marches. It's important for me to
protest because I won't sit there and tell her, oh, honey,
you know I retweeted something and I think that did
I think that did something like you know, like, I can't.
I can't do that because I know she's gonna ask,
because she's Aquarius, She's gonna go, Mom, what did you

(26:29):
do when this like monster was president?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
How did you?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
What did you do to keep me forgetting?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, yeah, I unders can't And I will say, we
see it. You know, I've seen you take the baby
to marches, right, I've seen you take But I was
gonna say.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
John is very popular.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Book. I'm busy. Yeah, no, John's trying to sell this book.
That's what John is doing. But I was gonna say no,
Like I've seen you take her to marches, I've seen
you take her to events that celebrate, you know, the
family element of you know, the industry and all these
other things that you do for her, and I think

(27:09):
also immersing her like you know, I always think about
this moment. I remember going to her first birthday party
and just remember seeing how many different like purviews were there.
There were so many different lived experiences who were sharing
space in your backyard. And I just remember looking around
and being like, wow, this is the first real industry

(27:30):
thing that I've ever been to, like a like an
invite to a like a party, because most of the
time when I go to parties, if they're industry parties,
she usually just nothing but white people. And it's usually
a whole bunch of white people on there you very
bad ass kids, and it's very much kind of like, hey, John,
where your friend?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
But you know, you're.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
The where the friend. You're the friend that makes me
feel better about you know, And this happens, And I
want to make this very clear and this happens in
black and brown spaces too, where you have black people
inviting a whole bunch of white people into spaces, or
Latin X folks inviting a whole bunch of white people
into spaces. And at that party, that was the first
time that I really sat down and was like, damn,

(28:06):
this is really intentionally like diverse and inclusive. And you
had people who like did stuff in the background, but
you also had like some really important actors, and you
had some really like you had Emmy Award winners. It
was just it felt really good. And so I think,
you know, anytime I think about you and the world
you're building for Selena, like I always think to myself, like,

(28:27):
how much better, Like even with all the bs that's
gonna come with being a parent, how much better you're
helping to raise her be? And I think that's kind
of what the crux of this conversation is when you
see that there's a problem, you may not know how
to solve the issue, but at least do something right
Like that is literally what this conversation is. And so

(28:48):
it's so cool to know I have a friend who
really is trying to like change and and kind of like,
you know, really create something more for her when she
does get older. So yeah, I and I wouldn't say
it if I didn't mean it. You know that about me? Girl?

Speaker 7 (29:06):
So you had that you had COVID during the baby shower?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
My god, yes, And I'll be transparent and saying that, yes,
I was excited to be there for the baby. But
you know who, I'm not gonna say their name on ay,
how I feel about this certain person who was at
that baby shower and who I didn't get to me
or lap I didn't get to sit on. But that's
under that conversation. I didn't take all that could be

(29:33):
sad one day one.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Day, one day, my god, I got Beyonce tickets, So
anything can happen all that to be said, you know,
say take me.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I already I already got friends who were like, so
did you get up girl? I'll call it DIMS And
I was like, all right, all right, I have friends.
These are these are friends that I've been friends with
since college. So it's like they they are they're like you.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
They're like, you ain't too Hollywood for us, yet you
are not too Hollywood for us. You and I, You
and I we'll be outside so far and as BITCHA
got there again, do I need more tickets?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Bitch? I want to know more than once, So I'll
be right down with y'all. But I was gonna say,
you know, I think it something that I saw that was,
you know, it made me feel really good. Was the
conversation around a day without immigrants, where students, you know,
people who worked like I remember one of my actually
is funny because my friend, she's a teacher and she

(30:40):
teaches locally near where I live, and she was saying
that normally her class has like thirty two thirty three
students and that was like the first day that her kids,
like her classroom only had like five kids that day,
and they were all like three of them were black
and like two of them were white, and it was
very much kind of real, Like my and my friend
she's LATINX as well, but she was saying like that

(31:01):
was the first real day that it really kind of
like hit her that like, wow, there are so many
families and so many LATINX folks who make up the
demographics around like around where we live, and so you know,
thinking about folks who organize those protests and really are
pushing back against these policies. I wanted to know why

(31:21):
was it so important for us to be thinking about that?
And what can you know our black listeners, our white listeners,
our Asian listeners, whoever's that's not LATINX, what can they
learn from watching the LATINX community building moments like this
going forward?

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Well, first of all, I think it's hard to speak
to the black community because I feel like they always
stand up for everybody. I have always felt like the
Black community has stepped up for Latinos because they are Latinos,
Like there's a huge percentage, you know, yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
We're a package deal.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
But t Yeah, It's one of the things where I
feel like people see that it's closer to home, right.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
I know teachers that went.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
To school not because it was the day without an immigrant,
but because people are scared to go to school.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Now, people are scared to go to work.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
And it's it's really terrifying, like seeing all of the
cars to Mexico because they would rather go back on
their own terms than in the middle of the night,
you know what I mean, Like it's so scary. And
I grew up with my Cuban side and my mom
left when she was eight years old, saw three men
get executed before. She like, I mean, she's been through it,

(32:35):
and she keeps and she keeps talking about how similar
this all feels, and that is so so scary. Yeah,
so we when we see these like you know, you
see these empty classrooms, I hope it in emplorers of
their communities to know that they're also going to be othered.

(32:58):
You know, there's a small percentage of peopleple that meet
all the criteria that you know, this this administration, that's
the word we're using, this approves of. And I hope
it only I hope it doesn't just awaken the minorities.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
I hope that white people are the real ones.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
That are waking up, because I feel like everyone else,
everyone else knows what it's like to be othered right
in one way or another. And I mean, I know,
my poor Hunt is the most self hating white man.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Saying I have one too, so mad about stuff. Came
home the other night, came home the other night going
off about something that happened to him at work, and
he was like, that was racism. That was racism, and
I'm like, babe, yes it was, it was. I get it.
He was so upset, but he'd be so mad about
the way that the world is moving. And I'm like, babe, like,

(33:52):
welcome to my world. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Also, yes, thank you for speaking up about that, and
thank you for advocating for the black lady who experienced
what they experienced at your job. I get it. Yeah,
so I feel it. I feel it.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
But it's also like how do they do that? Like
what do they do with that information?

Speaker 7 (34:09):
Like how you mobilize now that you're so upset? Now
what you know?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah? Yeah that's right.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, that part because I often I like I have
I have I have a limitic capacity for white outrage
because I'm like I'm like, yes, I love that you're mad,
but like what you could do about a girl?

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Because I can't do shit? Just something about it? Then,
like we all we we've been mad. I've been telling
you this for years. I'm mad too. Can you can you?
Can you make some like I tell you, well, what's
gonna happen?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Because I'm like, yes, I mean like I I appreciate
when our white allies are mad, but I appreciate it
more if you'll turn that act the anger into action,
that would be fantastic.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Yes, it's like the Buddha judge can't do it by himself.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Listen, Yeah, I just want you so much. Yeah, Jamie
Lee Curtis can only do so much.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
She called out so many babies before they're like girls
stop like.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Mama struggling trying y'all to understand what's going on in Hollywood.
She can't be the only one. She can't be the
only one. And I I really appreciate.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I believe I appreciate just that you even like the
apreciate you call in the idea like white came to
because like wife, folks, you'll be immgrants as well.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Too, like we like like like like you know.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Black immigrants, it was immigrants. Why was the immigrants? Like
we all be immigrants, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I think what's have special especially for me with with
with my family is like like like my mom and
my aunt are first genration, so like they're there their
parents fled, fled, hungry to not that in the Holocaust.
And so when we when when when we're talking about
this day, like it was like like like like.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
What it was a no.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Brainer of how important this day was, like like for
them to acknowledge, like this day is important because like
without im like without immigrants and amorgran families, like so
many things would not run right, Whereas so many people
were like like outrage and mad, like my mom was
sitting here, like if this means that the freeway has
bought the freeways bought, I hope it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Out at the back roads then, like who who am I?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Who am I to do? Like who who am I
to stop the work?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
And so I, you know, I really implore people like
like the like people will think like immigration is anonymous
with like, let's be honest, people will think immigration is
just anonymous with Muscan folks and that to me is
already pomadic, Like.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
That's not didn't means when we thought, that's not what
it means. There's like so many so many folks.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Are migrants and and and our fleeing and our fleeing
the countries or trying to come here for X y
Z reason. So many people like and watching the discourse
about this has been really fastating because there are folks
who I follow, who like, like who like, who are
lacking themselves and like even even the ending the intercommunity
discourse of like folks saying, well we came here quo

(37:17):
unquote like the right way, which is which Again, I'm like, girl,
I don't that that's that's not the hill.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
That's still I don't think that it means no offense.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
But like, yeah, thing, nothing in America is the right way.
Like everything in America is the wrong Like nothing America
is the right way.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Girl. We are all the wrong way. We all got
here somehow.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
We're tired, you're hungry, but do it the right way?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Okay, I'm saying, like what, but it's so true.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's so true.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Like, like I know there's a lot of discourse, but
like especially within Latin communities and even like and and
even with Black communities of like people like like people
who came here quote unquote legally you know, and like
and I'm like, do you understand do you understand the
legal process?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
But do you know how hard yeah to like to
like legally do that?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Like that system itself is already justizing people by the second.
And so I really really like, I'm whenever I all
of us understand how horrible our immigration system is, because
that will really help us actually learn learn learn tustantially.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
And if they understand that immigration.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Affects all of us and impact all of us, like
so so many.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Like y'all, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
That's like, if you are a black family, most likely
you're you're a family of immigrants because your family was
taken to come here. My family on my on my
black side immigrants because we were taken from our country
to come here.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Like that is really how it works.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
So we understand that the immigration and mogripay patterns impact
all of us, and so we all have a right
and dare I say obligation to like like to to
fire folks who are just asking for the right to
be here in this space that tells them right, this country,
that tells all these that tell us everybody, we are
here to keep you safe and have asylum for you
or make sure you have a space here. If we

(39:06):
if we're selling, if the country is selling people that dream,
then like we should all be able to access to
that dream.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
So stop so much like people can.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Access say okay, anyways, So along those lines, I want
to ask you Jess about because I know good because
I love work is tied to speaking out openly about
the lack of organization in kimmuity spaces for a black
lives and letting people in the bays the industry.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
As supposed to call it.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And so I'm really curious to ask you, like how
like how like and and I want to name like
I have love seen you do it because like like,
I like watching you post post by post on your
trip in Mexo City, watching you post about, watching you
like do the events like like like seeing you tap

(39:55):
into into your culture, and especially it's by as you
name myst wander like who like who who the dude
doesn't No Losxpanision may have felt dissnetted from your identity.
I really appreciate how much you dive into and celebrate it.
Still it demonstrates that like that you don't always have
to You don't aways have to have to speak language
to be able to celebrate who you are. And so
like knowing that you do that, and knowing that you
speak about the lack of presentation in community spaces for

(40:18):
these for for our identities, how are you able to
carve out community in this industry that often feels truly
intentionally white?

Speaker 7 (40:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I got.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
That was that was that was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Okay, you're phenomenal. All I did was just asked a question.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
So no first excuse me. I have been lucky that
the group like that.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
I feel like the generation that I'm coming into for
Latinos in this industry are more about being connected than
they are fighting for the parts or the opportunities. I
genuinely feel that way, and like maybe like eight five
six years ago, I w one have said that. I
feel like we've realized that it takes all of us

(41:07):
working together to support each other to get any more
of our stuff made.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
So I've been blessed. Like there's a woman named.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Elsa Collins who helps run Eki's, which like they're the
reason I went to Mexico City. They're the reason why
they open these opportunities to me, like when the fires
were going on, like what days are you available? These
are volunteers, Like this is what we're doing, Like we're
doing packages here. Like she's literally made it so like
easy to try and be motivated and to do it.

(41:36):
And I think that that's what it takes.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
It takes a village.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
So people like her have been like so important in
kind of keeping us together and keeping us to task
because we have we even have a group chat.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
This is a secret knowledge we have like a yeah, yeah,
we have.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
We have a group chat on Instagram with like a
lot of big Latino I mean, because we don't get those.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
But like I hated here, knock it off.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yes, yes, true, it's not true. But you know who
I'm talking about? That other man? Is that man in it?
What's not? Not that one? Not that one, not that one.
I'm talking about the man that I did, y'all know.
I don't.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
I'm not gonna name him on here because I don't
need people throwing tomatoes at me.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
But he is a rapper and he was on Broadway.
Is that man in there in the heights?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Stop because now you bother will say the name like
all the ways stop. But I don't like him, Okay,
I don't like him.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
I've said it publicly. I will say this why a publicly.
I am going on record and saying that if nobody
hates that man, I have died.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
You have died.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
I have.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
If nobody hates him.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
A something you know or is it like a deep
like you feel something or is it the things that
he's done?

Speaker 7 (43:14):
Okay, you never hey, you never go against that. You
never against that.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I feel every time I'm looking at him.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
I'm also gonna up saying because I'm not working right now,
so I will.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Say before you even get hired.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Okay, Chris cut out that out.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Chris cut it out.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
So we can make sure that girl can work because
the industry is tight. And if he's out to me
for a role.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'm not turning it down.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
You're right, I would.

Speaker 7 (43:50):
That's literally, that's literally why I was like, what do
you do?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Because if it's not it's not legally a more was
that leg.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Is it just the hunch? I'm okay, I get it.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
I get it. But no he's not.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But it's but it's okay.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
And all of it right now is how we how
do we mobilize, how do we get like, how are
we how are we giving correct information out to like
our community to like either tell them like with ice
comes to your door or things like that, or how
do we help the families directly? We were talking about
like making like almost like an escort type service where
we were helping like getting American sit.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
Right, we'll get back.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
You know, you gotta work, but like in order to help,
you know, like help trans like move people like so
they can feel safer that they have an English speaker
that's going to be able to fight for them, you know,
things like that, because as much again as we love
all the postings and all the stuff it does, it
doesn't feel like enough, like we there's more that needs
to done. So at least I know that I'm in

(45:03):
part of those conversations, and I know that there are
things that are being worked out.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
Hopefully it comes to fruition sooner than later.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
But mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
I don't know what question that was for.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
But no, no, no, no, no, no, I think you you're
I appreciate what you said. No, but I you know,
you did answer the question. I think it's it's it's
really this, this idea, and that's the thing I think
a lot of this conversation is about. And I think
that's one of the reasons why I think I gravitated

(45:34):
towards you so quickly in terms of thinking about like
the industry spaces that we're both in. A lot of times,
it's real easy for folks to just kind of rest
on on what's the word I'm looking for, celebrity. I
guess that's the right word, right that like people. But
I think like so so, I've been in situations where
I've seen people come up to you and there's this

(45:56):
glimmer and their eye and it's not just because you're
that you're on a show, show or that you but
it's because because of who Jessica Marie Garcia is. Right Like,
it's there's one thing to say, oh, I love Jessica
Marie Garcia as an actress, but when someone says I
love Jessica Marie Garcia, it's because they're saying I love
what you stand for. And so I think a lot

(46:17):
of it is what you're really speaking to is this
idea about knowing that you have there's a duty that
comes with the popularity, and I think you're I think
you as not only just a creator, but as an actress,
as a as a mother, as a producer, you really
pour into that. And I think that's one of the
things I've always extremely loved and respected about you, is
that you know you can peel back all of the

(46:39):
celebrity and you're still you're just a down ass human.
I think that's the thing that really really speaks to
me in this moment, is just being like, thank you
for that, because we don't we don't have enough of
that right now. We have a lot of people who
get off on being you know, big names or taking
up space and rooms and are not really doing any

(47:00):
thing for anyone. And I've never heard anyone say that
it's just about you know, the name or the popularity
for you. So I'm just I'm very grateful and thankful
to know you, both on a professional and on a
personal level.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
So yeah, and I feel the exact same way about you.
You have no idea. You've also been there for me
for very dark days.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
And yes, yes, so I appreciate that, whether it's over
cheesecake factory.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Amen, here were hanging out and we're eating a whole
bunch of shit over and uh what is it? Uh
folkal to chavenge. We don't hang out and we don't eat.
That's the one thing we don't do around these pods,
is we gonna eat? Yes, yes, And I have.

Speaker 7 (47:41):
A list of other places we need to go that.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I'm talking along for those.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Okay, I'm talking a long ya. Come on down, Come
on down, Joho, come on down.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
I also really appreciate that you say that, because it
does it is a responsibility, and it also feels very
heavy because you want to be very particular about what
you do spread because you don't want to spread up
by disinformation. And I also don't want to talk about
things that I know nothing about, because that's another thing
about the celebrity that's so interesting is just because somebody
said yes to my dreams doesn't.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
Mean I know shit about anything, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
It's like, just because you know I have a lot
of followers, doesn't mean I know about politics or religion
or should be able to guide you in any way. So,
if anything, another thing I want to teach my daughter
is question everything, literally question everything.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
And that no, no, no, no, that's so watch everything for facts.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Ye, that's that's exactly what what I was taught as
a kid too.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I mean, I know, I know my mom is mad
about today.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
She's like, but why you question everything? And I'm like,
could you throw me to girl? But she's she's not
doing that. So I think it's really it's amazing get
that you're teaching a child that, because because like, like
like nothing is real, nothing is real. Everything is made
up and subjective, and we have and we have to
question everything around us to make sure that we are
able to actually be held safe and protected and cared

(49:07):
for and all those things. So thank you, thank you,
thank you for sharing, thank you for just thank you
for engaging with us. And I really love I have
heard I have vicariously you know as much about you
through John. So it's really special to see your friendship
be in this space and to see you both just
like love on each other.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
It feels it feels like a like a gift to witness.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
But so that said, we have we have to take one.
I think no, and this is our second break of
the day. Yeah, where is time another break?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
We got.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Take three? Where's that clacker?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I have to say, y'all, we do have to take
another break.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
While we have showed our listeners what means to be
an accomplished, we got to take a break to jump
into things that we love to do ourselves, which is
accomplishing some food. That's right, and just to say, and
we are back, y'all. So this week we're gonna do

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something that we haven't done in a minute, and that
is talk about some.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Good old food.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Be you.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I all love to eat and eat out.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Okay, So I want to regale y'all with a session
of hot or not In terms of food, trends if
you have some more piece for you to add some
as well too. But basically, I'm going to give you
a list of some things and you're gonna let us
know hot or not.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I might. I might add in some thoughts as well too.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
But first thing, okay, plant menu get PERFT so number
one for us, it's plant based menu expansions.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I don't love it. I'm gonna say not.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
It depends depends. I'm not mad.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
I'm not mad on depending on where. Now what does
it mean?

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Because if it just means impossible burgers, I'm done, it's
a chop.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
For me, it's not.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
But if it means like calliflower nuggets or like like like,
I can roll with something. But if you're trying to
give you the whole menu plant based, to me, it
might be a chop because I'm like, I don't come
here for the same experience with bas I want to
eat this experience.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yes, so, because there's a place in Vegas that has
a it's entirely plant based. Everything is plant based.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Well, so like a plant based restaurant is one thing,
and I focks heavy with a plant based restaurant. But
if you a restaurant that isn't plant based and you're
trying to do a whole plant based version of your stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Then I'm like, so, like it's a yard house. Like
yard house, don't they have a whole selection?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
They have they have options, they have options, they have options.
But like, okay, just several pondering face, it's.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Just what do you think? What do you think?

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Well?

Speaker 7 (52:03):
I just have so many questions.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
So are we talking about like, okay, a restaurant that's
already already established, is going to have a whole like
brick and mortar plant based restaurant or just an expansion
menu of their stuff just plant based as well.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
Because it's because then it's inclusive.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Who cares, I don't care what you're ordering, but.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
So so so to me implies menus nottro or not
plant based, but are expanding new plant based offerings because
because like a plant based restaurant like has its purpose
if it feels a community. But oftentimes plant based expansions falls.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
Low in quality.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah because you because because for example,
not like you come for a steak, but your vegans,
so are you gonna get a caught flower stick? And it
does not hit the same now or the side is
that Mac and Cheese is just seeing veggies like that
isn't being what it promised to deliver, And so to me,
it's a to me to not in case of case basis.

Speaker 6 (53:07):
But I agree, I agree that I'm going to tell
you it's going to be very difficult to say that
they're plant based when they deal with something that's next
to something is so not plant based.

Speaker 7 (53:18):
There's going to be a lot of cross contamination there.
So unless you're doing.

Speaker 6 (53:22):
At a restaurant for over ten years, I know, but
it's like unless like sectioned off areas, that's going to
be very difficult to say that you're completely plant based.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Like you so just coming in with the technicalities that
you're plant based. If it's touching meat, girl, that that
that that is.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Like alagens, you can't be doing that either. Okay, Yeah,
I see you. Okay. Number two Ghosts kitchens and.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Delivery delivery delivery only models.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Chop chop. It's a chop and has chopped for me.
And the reason why I say that, there's this place
so I'm I'm literally probably giving away way more information
about where I lived than what I should. But there
is a place called Raw Sushi that is out here
in the Inland Empire, and it is fantastic, probably one
of my favorite sushi spots. Well, during the pandemic, I

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saw raw Sushi under door dash and I was like, Oh,
this is so cool that raw Sushi now delivers, because
the closest raw Sushi to us at the time was probably,
like I would say, maybe fifteen twenty minutes away. So
when I saw that, I was like, okay, cool. So
we ordered from it. And when I tell you that,
the quality of the food was not the same quality,

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and I was like, something is up here, and so
I tried to call and they were like, oh, we're
basically a ghost kitchen because we're owned by the same company.
We have their same stuff that we can make. And
so often that's what ends up happening is that with
these ghost kitchens. So it'll be like Popeyes making chicken
for like I'm just trying to think of something random,

(54:55):
Like it'll be a restaurant making what you think is
real fast food and it's not a fast food place.
Or it'll be a restaurant that has doubled itself to
be able to say, oh we we we sell desserts.
Now we sell sell these specialty desserts, and you think
that it's a real, actual brick and mortar, and it's not.
It's just this random person adding ingredients in the back
of another place. No, it's a chop. It's usually always nasty.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
So what I'm hearing is what I'm hearing is that
the execution has not been good. No, because because because
I would say, and there are a few places that
are like collective of ghost kitchens that I do love.
Like then like there was this vegan place that they
they got their start doing a ghost kitchen and then
they became became a brick that's different, but they like,

(55:42):
but they were already fire. I think to your point,
places that make ghost kitchens to like make theirselves more accessible.
Never never, No, just the concept is there, but delivery
is not put intended.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
And just no, that's exactly right, exactly right. That's it's
like you're getting it from like the food truck.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
Then that's okay.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Listen, can we ask that question here? Are we a
fan of food trucks? What?

Speaker 4 (56:08):
What is? What the hell?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yes, food trucks walked, so ghost teaches can run, Okay,
ghost tetches on wheels.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Please, I love a food truck.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
First of all, you cannot live in a big city
and not like you can't be in l A and
not love food truck culture, like food food. Food truck
culture is the culture of the man cities. So she's
usually so expensive, depends depends on well, see, then becomes
like are they trying to do these these these these

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gourmet food trucks, because that, yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
You don't want to You don't want to do it
at like a fair.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
You don't want to do it like a food truck
like fair where there's like ten to fifteen food trucks.
You want to go where you know that you're going
to you can't wait to see.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Central And Okay, that food truck on whoever that is,
that's where you the one that the the the you know,
there's a cross from the gas station. Looks messy as hell.
Maybe they have some roach coach.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
That's what you know. You know it's gonna be fired,
almost said a roach coach. That's what thing used to
be called. Speaking of food trucks, we went to that
food truck festival in l A earlier. This me Chris
host for me, Chris Rogers and XD they're gonna laugh
when they hear this. But we went to I think
it was called Foody Fest or something like that, and
it was in the Pasadena or it was it Pasadena? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(57:29):
and my god, when I tell you one, it was
hot as fuck. We almost died from heat exhaustion. But
also the fact that the food. Again, the food was
so damn expensive, but there were some hits. We got
some food at that festival that that actually hit, but
for the most part it was very expensive.

Speaker 7 (57:46):
So I feel like they.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Do they, oh, for sure, because like vendor costs all
those things.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
And next on our list is sustainable and locally sourced
dishes ingredients.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Did we have a conversation about locally sourced on this
on the on the pond recently or was it somebody
else I was talking to about that. I feel like
we talked about that, about the idea of like locally sourced,
my ass meaning like yes, but often because I have
that for sure.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
I for sure said that because I'm like, don't tell
me a locally sourced but you have it flown from
fucking Napa, or you need to drive five hundred miles.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
From sheep from from from Chico. That's not locally sourced
with a girl.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Okay, unless this man's out here farming in the Pacific
Ocean in San Diego, it's not locally sourced fish.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
In his backyard. It's not locally sourced. Okay, No, because people.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Peoples, I'm just saying, I work on a farm. Okay,
I've worked on a farm before, so I know what
locally source means. If you're food miles more than five
miles to arrive at the destination, that's not locally sourced.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Locally mean you are picking that ship yourself somewhere else, Okay.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Now, Or like, there's this restaurant here that blessed are sold,
and I I waiver on this because they call themselves
hyper local because they get their produce.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
From the farmer's market.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
And so part me is like, but is it hyper
local if the farmer that made the produce is actually.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Like suspecies.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Okay, it's hyper local because you walk ten feet to
get the produce. But the farmer didn't want to produce.
They had to drive two hours down here. So I
was like, is it yeah?

Speaker 7 (59:36):
Could you just let me live in my ignorance and
let me mean val berries.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Valley berries. Fact no facts so facts, No, that that's
true because sometimes.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Coming all the way down to five, like locally sores
to me different, Yeah, let me get my doesn't call
that a good damn day. I was just saying, like
I thought, Lovely Source to me is a hot but sustainable.
It's because I'm like, I don't sustainable. Yeah, I don't anything.

(01:00:16):
You are a per plate restaurant sustainable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Like would not not for this wallet? That's for sure.
Can we do two more? Then? We got it? We
have to zoom? Okay, Okay, I was gonna say, can
we do number nine on the lists? Okay? So I
was eating six and nine? Okay, got you? Next is next?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
It is fine casual dining.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
So that means a place that is like fine dining experience,
but they don't care about your retire.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Okay, So like a cheesecake factory. Would that be considered fine?

Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
No, no, no, I think unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
It's not to that's not Let's find that I think
is fine for the chow?

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
What is it like that? Like that that like that
Flemings dress. I think Cassway has his dress code.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
I know that for a fact the has like Ruth
Chris sometimes can be but like you, but like I'm
on the mind of mom paying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Fifty bucks for a chicken. I'm gonna dress up, right,
you gotta put it on, you gotta pop out and
T shirt and jeans. I'm gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:01:45):
I get that too. But at the same time, I
can't tell you how many times I've dressed.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
Up for food and the food did not live up
to the price.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
That is also.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
Like I dressed up for you and you're vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
And not taste. Yeah. I don't know the name of
that steakhouse in San Diego, but there's a steakhouse in
San Diego that I had that same experience. Me and
my friends. We dressed up, we we we jumped in
the les, we went, we did the whole experience, and
when we got in there, the only thing that was
good was their bread. Everything else wasn't wasn't good at all.

(01:02:18):
So yeah, I feel you on that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
I'll just say like, like, I just don't like find
nothing at all, Like find nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
To me has no.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I'm a simple girl. I'm a simple girl. You do
not need to find doing whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yeah, that's why I go to cheesecake.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
I told you how many Hollywood events we go to
and it's fine dining and they give you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
A baby because where's the after meals? Let me tell
you this, Okay, So I'm a press. You gotta bleep,
you gotta bleep the name of this. I went to
the two years ago, so that food was so damn nasty.
I literally pulled through the McDonalds you because they hold

(01:03:06):
the wildron and I literally swooped through McDonald's before I
got on the freeway because I was like this, I'm
not eating this. It was disgusting. But yes, so I
hear you wholeheartedly. Okay, are lost?

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
They don't, they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
They don't feed you, and they don't they don't care
about your they don't care about your palette.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
They just know the last one they don't feed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, the last one is tech enhanced dining.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Now, John, you paused this, so I'm I need.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
To know what what does this mean? Because I was like, yeah,
can hand? So so what that means that when I
saw this, I knew exactly what they were talking about.
So I had went to again, me and a couple
of my friends. Remember I told you back in August,
me and my friends went to San Diego. We did
like a kind of staycation stay away and we stayed
at one of the resorts. That's what actually came out
to your Kickboggin. Yeah, so basically tech enhans just like

(01:04:03):
you don't really deal with a waitress or a waiter.
There's a little roma that may come around and may
ask you to take your order or even like you
know how like a chili's how they have those things
on the table to where like if you want extra water,
if you want more water, you want more soda you want,
or you want a dessert or whatever, you don't necessarily
have to ask a waiter to get it. They now

(01:04:25):
have little tablets. I forget what restaurant it is. That's
like fully remote literally to like from like iPad to
the kitchen. There is no waiter. There's like literally there's
one person who runs your food out, but you never
really interact with the person around your food. That, in
my opinion, is tech ing hands dining, and I absolutely
hate it. I think I think, yeah, I think it

(01:04:48):
just it It only makes you more frustrated when it
comes to like getting the stuff that you want.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
I know, in la they have pal those are like,
those are like robots that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Will drive your footing around, that will drive the foot
abround and bring your food like in the streets.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
And when I tell you that, when I see when
I get immediately infurious. I'm enraged. I want to destroy it.
I want to smash it. I want to run over it.
I cannot the life of me stand those things, those
little two foot fuckers out here just biit, Bobby along.
But first of all, first of all, like, it's not

(01:05:24):
how the infrastructure a flatland to do this. There are
crops in every stop walking road, so your food's gonna
get shaken the fuck up and it will not come out.
It will not come out the same way you order it. Like,
It's just it's not for me. I can't stand those things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I'm like, why do we have this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Another robots in the restaurants. I haven't had that experience yet.
I do get why, but to me it is weird,
Like just I want I want the reaction I want
if I ask you what's good, I want you to
tell me what's good and what's not good. Right, I
want the robots taking them my order to right, or

(01:05:59):
if I have if I have the complaint.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I can't say, hey, robot, take this back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I got like, hello, person, I need you to know
this wasn't good or it was missing a little some
some can I get a little spot like that's just me.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
I think it's spot on a lot of levels because
I think that well, as a way, I've waited tables
for ten years, and it's a great job when you
need one, and I feel like you're taking a lot
of people's jobs.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
And also the tips, I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:29):
And it's moving into a society where we have less
and less interactions with humans and I think that that's
only going to cause more divine or already is.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
And like I just I don't see the reason for it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
I think, why we're not using tech technologies and technologies
technology to help like fix our roads, like fix things
that need like fixing people's jobs are not one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't think we need to.
It's even the idea of like the all automated. I
mean I've seen totally autonomous gas stations and like fast
food and all that, and it's like and also what
happened with the McDonald's right. The guy went through and
I guess he had said he wanted a thousand cups
of water and they ended up having to Like, he
did that intentionally because he knew that it would mess

(01:07:12):
up the machines. He was like, I want a thousand
cups of water, and they ended up having to put
a real person online because the real person online was like,
our machines can't handle this, so please don't do that.
But again, it's just it's it's I don't know, it's
making our world. Bet it's making our world and making
things worse, and that's one of the issues that I have. Like,
I love tech, but I also like, I have a
lot of issues with it. So but anyway, with that

(01:07:33):
being said, thank you Joho for regelling us with your
thoughts around that I love. There was another one that
you had made. I'm just gonna say this, we quite
an honorable mention the health conscious restaurant menus looking at
you skinny dishes. Yes, like, girl, fuck off. If I'm
going to eat, I want to eat. I don't want
to have to feel bad about the shit that I'm
going out to eat. I'm going out to eat because
I feel bad mind Joe fucking business.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
But yeah, put what they.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Said, mind your fucking business, yes, mind, yes, mind it minded.
But all that to be said, so we're gonna go
ahead and take one more break, and when we get back,
we're gonna come back with your favorite segment, yes ma'am
and no man, Pam more in a second. All right, y'all,

(01:08:25):
So we've got one more section to get through with
our and then that I think that's gonna be the
sad part of the show that we have to let
you go. But with that being said, we usually like
to close out our show just kind of talking about
for those of you who are new to the show,
talking about the things either we love or the things
that we want to go up for, or the things
that we actually want to throw away or we want
to get rid of. And so with that being said,
this week, my yes, ma'am, I definitely wanted to say

(01:08:48):
I wanted to shout out all the orgs and the
people who are suing these maga folks for all the
things that they're doing, specifically the laws that they're breaking.
A lot of them are breaking a lot of laws.
Actually had a in pain me yesterday and say you know,
you can probably put in h I think a complaint
around I guess, oh boy elon musk running a monk

(01:09:09):
and the the Financial Aid office and pulling people's information.
I guess there's a whole thing around that. And so
they were telling me that I should call and try
to see if I can put in a complaint to
see if I can get some of my debt relieved,
because there was a whole bunch of furple laws that
were broken with that. So just just that there are
a lot of people who are giving that information to
let us know, like, these are the ways that they

(01:09:31):
are breaking laws. And I know that I'm not a
I don't I don't have a law degree. I don't
know like I know policy, but I don't know law
like that, And so I think it's imperative. And it's
so cool that there's so many people who are using
their law degrees to tell us what's actually happening and
helping us understand what's really going on. So I just
wanted to say, and I think the other the part
about that kind of going back to the original part

(01:09:53):
we were talking about at the top about language. It's
so cool that we have people giving folks the language
about what's wrong right now in like very small chunks,
like they're saying, Oh, I'll teach you in an hour,
I mean in a minute and thirty seconds how to
protect yourself against this, whereas there are a lot of
us who honestly don't know how to kind of like
talk about the injustice that we're seeing in the stuff

(01:10:14):
rece So just shout out to anybody who's what I
like to call doing the work, whether it's on social media,
whether it's in a room, whether it's underground. A lot
of folks are doing a lot of hard work right now,
and it's just really cool to see people coming together,
like you said earlier, in community to get that information
out now for my no man PAMs this week, my

(01:10:34):
my no man pam comes from Joe Hoo's no Man pam,
but mine is more specific. So what I'm ultimately going
to say, and I may get in trouble for saying this,
but I really don't care. I don't need anyone else to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Be a thought leader at this point, especially just when
stuff comes like let art be art, And what I
mean by that is I did not watch the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I saw clips of Kendrick's performance. And I will say
this lovingly, kendricks music and Kendrick's art it's not for me, right,
Like I appreciate it. I can say I appreciate that
he is so black and what he does for the
black community, but I will say that his music and
his art is not for me. So I'm not gonna
even pretend to act like I know what any of

(01:11:22):
what he did at the super Bowl was. What I
will say that I'm over is people over analyzing the
performance and really talking about stuff like just trying to
sound smart. I guess that's really what I'm trying to say.
I'm just over people trying to sound smart for likes

(01:11:42):
and for clicks, like let the RPR he got out there,
he did, Yes, it did have hints of racial justice
in it, and that's cool, but I don't, like, I
don't care. It's just it's like, I don't I'm just
over everyone feeling like they need to be a viral
sensation or to be a TikToker that everyone flocks to

(01:12:02):
because they overanalyze everything like no one cares. And also
like and like also in that if you didn't like
the performance, and I think I'm stepping on your toes. Joho.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
I am so sorry if you didn't like the performance,
who the fuck cares?

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Like no one cares if you didn't like it, like
no one cares. If I don't like Taylor Swift's performances.
I think she dances like a stick. No one cares,
so like, save it, Like, why are like save your time? Save?
You're just save it? So I'm just at that place
right now where I'm just I think I'm really just
over the hyper analyzing everything and everyone feeling like, oh,

(01:12:41):
it's gotta have a deeper message. Maybe it doesn't, and
that's okay, that's it's fine for you to leave that alone.
What about you, my love? Like, what are your guest
ma'am's and no man PAMs this week?

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
Oh my yes, ma'am's.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
I think the biggest one will kind of piggyback off
what you said, uh and what we talk. But earlier,
those immigrants, students walking out and using their voice.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
I'm so.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
Inspired by the younger generation who are like, you know,
really using their voices and and and their platforms so strongly.
I wish more people did that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
Mine.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
No man, I feel like I have so much I
have small I have so many small greens, and that's.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
What this, that's what this is form.

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
I am annoyed by people that leave every other trash
in the theaters. I just went to go see Lufasa
with my daughter and it was like just disgusting.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
And I was like, you know, just.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Because this somebody's job to pick it up, doesn't mean
they need to pick up after you. Like just things
like that, just people that street service industry, people in general,
because so many bigger there's so many bigger things like
the administration, the world is on fire. I can know
Pam Pam everything, but there's small things that just bring

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me over for the edge and their just being inconsiderate
of other people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah, that's that's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Well yeah, no one, we don't. We're over them. Just
stink piece, We're over them.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
So I mean also saying like like like just just
to go to my I'll start with my nomnpaan. But
same like I was saying, I was a telling my
remain on walk Shay, like I was like, perform is
amazing and also I don't need everyone's voice voice on it,
like either you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Did it or you don't. If you don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
You don't get it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Do you do great?

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Actually, actually don't need to hear you. I don't need
to hear how you got it. I need to hear
you get it like you can do one You got
one story post and you girl one story posted.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Three real, I don't need I don't need a five story.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Just give me one story you go, or you don't
dasis like like I like I too, And my point
like not everything has to be content, Okay you could
just you coun just watch Serena do the sea walk
and call that a good day and be happy that
that is fine with me. No need to give me
more than that, and so I just like, yeah, I

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mean my my my pad was people who are hating
other performance like the people the people who are like
it wasn't that flashy, it wasn't that great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Why do people owe you anything?

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
You have art like, no one owes you flashy, No
one owes you great, no one owes you culture, no
one owes you art, no one owes you performance like then,
And truthfully, you aren't paying them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
They're doing for you in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Like you need to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
You really shouldn't be watching the super Bowl. But that's
another that's another conversation for a different day. Listen, Listen,
like like, why are you even wasting?

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Because the way I was like, no, what, let me
go do my errands today because no one's gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Yeah, everyone, I was at home. I do my aunts.
Call that good damn day?

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Right, I for a half time show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Call that a good call? That a good one. But like,
just like like y'all are not You are not superior.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
You're not always superior ethically superior, socially superior for giving
a giving me a think piece, or for hating like
nothing makes you better than anybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Please just like we give it up.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
My yes man, Pam is to the show Harlem that
just wrapped up its series on Amazon Prime, and I I,
I won't give my think piece and the effort by
I just said about think pieces, but I will say
it was a It was a fantastic show. And I
really I love seeing like I love seeing like one.

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I I love block shows regardless. I love seeing like
a sexy city esque style block show led by like
such also like such four different characters.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I love the queerness.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
I was so already ingrained into it. I just I
I hate that and it's so early and really quickly.
I pray that finds new life and another platform. Which
but but Tracy Oliver.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
You did that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
That show is amazing. I loved it so very much
and it was it was a beautiful ending of the show.
I really just I love it so much. Yes, fam,
pam to that that to me, That to me is
a show that, to me is like a piece of
black art in like in the lexicon of TV shows
and such. It was just so fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
If you haven't watched it before, get on it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
It's three seasons, the quick episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
It's like like not not not not very long, just's
it's a good watch over a weekend if you have
nothing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
It's so so good. Can I just also say, and
I know I probably shouldn't say this, I'm not gonna
say this about the actual company because I do want
to work for them one day, and actually just did
some work for them a couple of months ago. But
I'm real mad about How to Die Alone being canceled.
I definitely want to say that. I'm that's a that's
another no, man, Pammelman, Lets you talk about show that, Yeah,

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I'm really up to wonder I do. I believe that
it will in life a different form. It's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
It's just interesting that like streaming became the new cable.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
And that's the okay, y, yeah, this interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:18:17):
But they don't play like cable, they don't pay like cable.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Okay. I was, yeah, I was watching Walking Dead this
week and I was thinking to myself there were sixteen,
seventeen episodes in one season, and I was like, my god,
if I knew at that time, like how much I
would appreciate a season with sixteen or seventeen episodes, I
would have watched so much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
More to the way I rewatched old shows just because
they were twenty episode seasons hour each. Like I'm like, well,
I would give to have my Thursday nights on with
these shows again, like six these days when I got
a parent. Back in my day, Netflix was a disc

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you had to get on the internet and you had
to wait once a week for t G.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
I T yeah, oh, how to get away with murder?
Such please? And I'm not saying that because Jessica's here
that show every Thursday, the way I would be lined
up in front of that TV waiting for Annaly's Yes,
Smith Gray on Gray's Please Thursdays. Was that night? My god?

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I'm just saying, cable healed families, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
I can't back.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Has ruined them all right. Well, with that being said,
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dolls find you?

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:20:02):
Please?

Speaker 6 (01:20:02):
On interwebs, on the TikTok at What's my Thing Jess
Marie Garcia with no E, and then on the Instagram
at jess underscore m underscore Garcia and that's probably it, I.

Speaker 7 (01:20:15):
Tweet tweet No, I'm like super unemployed right now.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Uh no, but like for real, I am on the
Thunderman's reboot on Nickelodeon.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Or I was like is paramount plus my god time,
I don't know where, I don't know where. I'm screaming
I live, Okay, my love, Queen joh, where can the
dolls find you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Of course, my sweet sweet loves and friends and everything
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us to a different company to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
I just need a central place. I had got.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Paramount Plus because you tolt me get Paramount Plus. Then
you made me have to go back to MTV, and
now I can't like how what do you want from me?

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Route?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
I just tell me how to access this show, because
now I'm just buying an Amazon Prime and that makes
no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
You were never an Amazon Prime show. You were always
a Logo MTV show.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
But now you're pick a place, girl, and now because
now you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Because now you can go on Filo or Foobie or
Booby where every heck is called doing way too much girl,
pick aside. Okay, you can afford to take the hit
and just have be a one service called out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Good damn day, girl. Amen, help me find the shows.
I too stand with that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
I'm very much at this place now where I'm very
over the fact that I pay close to two hundred
dollars for streaming apps a month.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
It's just it's annoying. It's a am I grateful that
I can afford it? Yes, but the thought of and
then oh, and then Netflix has the audacity to raise
their price again. It is now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Which I'm like, for one person, and I can't share
with my with my friends, maybe we share with your
share with nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
So me and me and my Netflix days are numbered.
They had to close the content studios.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I'm sorry, I close the content Yeah, sorry, I'm so sorry. No,
you know that's not fair because they have ted Surrando's.

Speaker 7 (01:22:35):
I don't agree.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
I will gladly pay fifty dollars service as long as
you keep putting me on it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Okay, I do redact When I said, I was like, no, what,
let me let me dig it back because I also
when we watch you risal content on there. But if
it means we get less content from like places are
the original than like like pay you can't get.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
More content, that's astronomical.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
I just want. I just want to work.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
And okay, well, if you love her, pay her please.
If you love her her, get her on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
And up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
She got eyebout to day she got hand for days
she got body. That's what you need to get on cameo.
Don't start making some money that way staying hello to people.
All right, well ask for me in my household. You
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book from. So just wanting to put that out there
as well. A wise, I will be online trying to
find something fat friendly to wear to this Cowboy Carter concert.
I would wear chaps, but mother got dermatitis and her
booty be ashy. So I don't think that that's something
that people want to know. Okay, yeah, so maybe maybe

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maybe I might find some chaps to wear. But but
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Stay black Facts, Simon fabulous and remember what JOHU. A
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Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
I love us.

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