June 6, 2025 • 17 mins
One of our listeners invited her date back to her place and spent HOURS together… but what she saw him do… she’s STILL trying to process. Hear what she went through in a new Second Date Update!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second date of day.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
First impressions are everything pretty important. Like Brook, what did
you think when you first met me that very first day?
I mean, I remember you trying to put your hands
all over me, But what thoughts you were dancing around
in your mind?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think you were a promotion kid. I don't know
that you left a huge mark on me. Jeff, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She was leading the claw marks onto me. That's what's
the main thing.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
She's been cruel for self preservation.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, what I do know is first impressions can make
or break a romantic connection.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You're scared, That's what I remember.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's just the look in Brook's eyes when she was
eyeing my entire body. It was.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But with first impressions, sometimes it could be the smile
that stands out. It could be the outfit. It could
be something you didn't even expect, like what's happening below
the ankles? The ankles, some action, you got some planner fascy.
It is going on down there, girl, it's working for me.
And I'll just say our listener, Derek had a very
interesting first impression with his date. So let's find out
(01:17):
about it. Derek, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Please tell me it's above the ankles.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We'll find out. What's this girl's name that you met recently?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah? I recently met Julia on a dating app.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Okay, is that where you're talking about the first impression
or the first impression when you met in person.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, it was when we met in person. And I
know this is going to sound kind of weird, but
she was not quite as cute as her pictures. Oh well, well,
but here's the weird part. Not until later on in
the date.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Were you drinking?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No, not exactly. The impression I got is that she
kind of forgot about the date and she came in
right from a workout.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh that makes sense, so she wasn't all done up.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I see, right, right?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Did she get cuter?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Like the more you got to know her, because I
know some people that, Yeah, Like after you know him,
you're like, oh my god, I could see why they're
so attractive.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Just talking about me again. Over here, we're talking to
Derek about him and Julia.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That was definitely part of it. But there were also
like some circumstances, like as the date progressed.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Oh, it started raining and and so then she was
twirling in the rain.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That would be interesting. Basically, the best part was is
that even though she looked a little like frazzled, I
could tell that she had like a cool vibe. I
could tell she was really stylish. I could tell she
was confident and like the conversation was really flowing. We
were talking about like travel. I had just gone to
London last year and she went to Paris two years ago.
We were sharing stories about that.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Can I ask, do we know where you are? Like
what'd you guys do?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We met at this like rooftop bar.
It was great. We met for drinks and we were
like we got a little food and we were like
eating off each other's plate. Whoa yeah, And honestly you
kind of got like messy would be the way I
would describe it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Like, yes, let's talk about this, let's get into the
messy stuff mess on a rooftop or how messy did
we get?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I would say it was like a date brought to
you by ty to goo.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Spilled.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh yeah I did. I did a couple things. She
made a mess on the cloth napkins and she like
spilled salsa, but it made it look like they were
like bloody napkins, and we were laughing about it. It
was like part of the fun of the day. And
I like, that's something that ran through my mind, is like,
I hope she doesn't just think I'm this like swab
of a guy. But she was just as messy as me,
(03:50):
So I don't think that was it.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, who cares if you inconvenienced everybody in
the bar and all the employees there. As long as
the two of you were vibing. Really, that's all that
matters in.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
This scenario, and the fair, fair, fair.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So how did that night end?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, So this is where I'm like pretty sure that
I didn't read the vibes wrong. Right, So at the end,
she was like, I'm sorry, you know what, I feel
really gross, Like I didn't get a chance to like
clean up, and she was like, do you want to
come over and I'll like clean up. And I don't
think she would have like asked me over if she
wasn't into the date and wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
No, I had this guy texting her friends, I'm just
gonna invite him over for a couple hours.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, well, maybe she wanted him to clean her up,
like she needed an assistant to help.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Them do it, like a pair of monkeys picking bugs
out of each other's hair.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Brook's done it before.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, that is definitely a green flag. I don't know
if it's a green flag that she wants a relationship
with you, but it definitely means that she likes you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I mean, did you say yes to that invite?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh yeah. We hung out for like several hours and
it was getting late. We were in bed. We didn't
like go all the way. I'm not gonna really get
into the details of that, but okay, I didn't say
the whole night because I was like, I actually do
have to work the next day, so I needed to
be in my space, you know. And I left really late,
(05:17):
and we had like been in bed together, and I
just hope, I don't know, I hope I didn't make
her feel bad about leaving.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It's possible.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, maybe do you believe a guy who says I
have work in the morning and I have to go today.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
People work on the weekends too.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I mean, I could just see where she may be like,
oh man, he didn't like me.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I think I was.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Like a question though, did you tell her that? Like,
did you explain anything the next day?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Or oh yeah. The first text that I sent to
her was on my way to work, that was like,
hope you slept well and last night was great and
we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Did she respond to that text?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So that's just it. It's been seven or eight days.
I have texted her a few times to like check in.
I haven't been completely ghosted, but I just the not
getting back a lot. Like in the beginning, I got
like one word answers and now it's kind of like trailed.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Off and.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
She's like, yeah, well, hopefully we get more than one
word answers.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
We have to leave a good first impression with her.
Yea all things about first impression.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Her first impression was she wasn't that cute, So we're
good at that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We'll just try and do it the normal way when
we come back, call Julia and get you your second
date update. Right after this hold on second date update,
I'm gonna do a quick recap here on the second
date update if you're just joining us.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Listener.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Derek met Julia at a rooftop bar for drinks and
super messy food she had apparently comes straight from a workout.
So at the end of the date, she invited Derek
to come back to her place because she wanted to
freshen up.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Something more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I mean, honestly, is there a better question?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I to ask, we know what that usually means.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, that felt good. It did lead to them in bed.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They did lie in the same bed at some point
because Derek stayed he said half the night or a
quarter of the night. I'm not really sure how to
explain it, but yeah, didn't stay the whole night. But
now he is not getting a call back and isn't
sure why. And that brings us to this moment right here.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
And remember you said he's not fully being ghosted.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
But it's like little short answers. Something's off.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's weird that there's such a turn, such a turn
in that energy from her.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Derek, did we miss anything that you did wrong or
that you could have done?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah? I don't think so. Like I said, I just
I don't know what's going on. I really like this girl.
I've heard you guys help people before. I've heard people.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Like try to help people.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, but like you get to the bottom of a misunderstanding,
and like I've heard people have a second date and
get past the problem. So I'd like to just know
what the problem is so I can fix it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Hey, look at that. That's emotional maturity.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Will Yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Don't normally like that here, But that's fine. We'll work
with it. Let's call Julia. We'll see if she picks
up and get those answers you want.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Really, stop being so nice. It's irritating where we go.
She's obviously the problem.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yeah, hello, Hi, we're gonna speak with Julia.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's a ship.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Hey, Julia, thanks for picking up Julia, I said, we
because you're on a radio show right now called Brook
and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Good morning.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Oh oh oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It doesn't happen very often, I'm sure, mostly because there's
not very many radio shows left.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yah, that's part of it. And this is a segment
that we do on our show called a second date update.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh gosh, Okay, okay, I.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Think it could.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I think this one's going to be good. Honestly, I
think you're going to be excited about this.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I got a good guy. Yeah, and I hope this
doesn't sound weird, but we heard you went out with
a guy named Derek recently.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Oh no, what No, it sounded like you were into Derek.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Maybe it could just be that she's like nervous on
the radio.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Tell her again and you can react again.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
No, I've definitely not been on the radio. But I
don't really want to talk about Derek either.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, Derek told us about the hangout you two had
the other night, and it sounded really fun the way
he described it.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
It was fun good.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, you got to understand how he's confused. You
invited him to like hang out at your place and
now nothing.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yeah. Well so I did invite him over and we
were having a great time. But he went over for
quite a while and he never took his shoes off
in your house.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Or in your apartment is a rule that you have,
Like you take your shoes off when you come in.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I mean there's always two types of places, right, the
shoes on or shoes off are encouraged get everything out.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Of But then I have friends who even for parties
shoes off.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Did you tell him that?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
So, yes, I definitely I am a shoe kind of
off person. But it was our first date. But we're
just sitting on the couch. It's okay, wasn't completely walking
around my apartment.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And and it can really ruin your outfit, like you're
on a first date.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
You play on the look like who knows what kind
of socks he had on? Maybe that was the issue.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, if you think about that, take them off,
skirt and you.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Guys know exactly how men think. So true.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
They meant there's a lot of shoeheads out there that
love their shoes.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How to go together?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oah, did you consider that?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Julia?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
And I didn't want to be rude either, And so
that's why later when we were watching TV and getting
kind of comfortable with each other and everything, I was like,
do you want to get comfortable and take your shoes off?
And he was like no, oh, And that was part
of weird.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's really funny because it's hard to snuggle with shoes on.
You means it right, It means that your feet are
always on the ground.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
But it gets worse, you guys, it gets worse.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
How does it get worse?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well?
Speaker 7 (11:26):
I don't I mean maybe he didn't tell you, but
we did end up in my bed. Yeah, weird with
his shoes still on?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
What okay, he got into your bed with his shoes on? Ew,
that would be uncomfortable and disgusting.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, how did you react when he did that?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I was appalled and I'm like, what are you doing?
Get your shoes off of my bed? And he's like,
this is my thing. I don't take my shoes off,
and I'm like, wow, am I in the twilight zone?
Are you insane? You know? I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I think I just.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Kind of freaked out, and faithfully he left, like twenty
thirty minutes later.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I think that, like the clothes that you wore for
the day are gross in your bed, Like the things
you sit on and touch and move around, like the
bottom of your shoes are all over everything.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Because I'm not I did not. I'm sorry. I did
not expect it to be an issue that I keep
my shoes on.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That that's really is shoe boys on the phone, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Julia, that's Derek. He's been listening this entire time on
the other line.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Really, it's not really Derek, is it.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yes, it's me.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah? Yeah, I can't really believe that that's the reason
you're not like returning my decks?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, what, you've never heard that complaint before?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
You don't know anything. No, do you know anyone else
who wears their shoes as much as you do?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've been doing this like a really long time. This
has been kind of my thing for like fifteen years.
I wear shoes twenty three and a half hours a day.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Maybe, Wow, what's break forth like a shower? Hopefully?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah? Basically when I shower, I take the shoes like.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
A comfort, like a security blanket type of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do you have weird feet or is it the fashion
thing that the girls were saying?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't know. I mean the best thing I can
describe it. Like, I am definitely as a person an extrovert,
but my feet are introverted. Oh yeah, And but if
you think about it, it is a lot more efficient.
It saves me like two to three minutes in the morning.
That really adds up. That's a couple extra hours a month.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I don't right, you have to take your shoes off
to put your pants on and then put.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Them back on. Who's taking their pants off? I'm not
taking my pants off.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You got with her both women to take your pants off?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Kind of skill.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Wait, if you take tear away pants, then you don't
have to take them off over your shoes. They're very useful.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I actually think there could be a solution to all
of this.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Like I hear you you got your shoe saying whatever
that's you man? Is there a way you get like
house slippers where you could like at least switch from.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, definitely not. Look, I live a no barefoot decisions lifestyle.
If I want to be ready, I want to stay
ready right now.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's a good It's not a good point, Jeff.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
It is if there's a.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Fire, he is going to be the first one out
run out barefoot, but not as fast, not as quickly.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think you would run equally as fast as.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's like you with your glasses. If you take your
glasses off, you're lost in this year handicap. You can't
get out the door.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
That's because I can't see it, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's because your glasses are introverts.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah, they're shy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They need to be on your face. I feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It would make my eyes intoverts. Not my glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Your whole body's weird, weird. We have no confidence. I
feel like we're come into common ground here.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So Lily, he said, notice slippers.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, yeah, ground that the shoes stand on. So let's
offer to send you guys out on another date. We
would pay for Julia. What do you think give him
one more chance?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
I honestly can't. It's so strange to me. Oh no,
I don't think I can adapt. Oh he's not willing
to adapt. Why should I?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think that this is I know you said that
you've never heard this as a problem before, but this
has got to be part of an issue with every
woman you've ever been with. Yeah, there's like even socks
on in bed are an issue for most wives.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, it's never really come up. But also I haven't
been like actively dating. Like seriously, I.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Think that you've heard of a farmer's can I can't
imagine his shoe tan.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, I just say you need to work through it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, to me, it's not a problem. It's a strength.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Okay, I'll be mature. I don't. So you deserve to
be with someone who agrees with you. Maybe you'll kind
of a twenty three hour wearing girl, and.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You'll he's a woman out there who has her shoes
on all the time, and she's going to be appreciative
when she finally walks into the room and sees you.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
How much you want to bet his soul may works
at a shoe store.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm sorry, man, you tried.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What can I say?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, but we'll be here for you if you ever
need our support in the future. Okay, some arch support,
of course, is what I mean. Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We've had a lot of guys come through the show
in the last year, not a lot of shoe guys.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, that was so weird. Yeah, I was trying to
be open.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
He's got his shoe anxiety or something like feed anxiety.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I was trying to think it would be worse if
he never took shoes off, or if he never puts
shoes on.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I would take no shoes ye more normal, like when.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You go to a wedding, he's gonna be shoeless.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, I know, but I would take that over the shoes.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean, I am kind of surprised that nobody in
his life has brought this up to him in the
last like fifteen years. That seems pretty unlikely.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
It's weird, But.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I guess some people get confidence from like a nice haircut,
some people get it from a nice dress.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Some people just get it from being single for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Because they keep their shoes on for twenty three and
a half hours every day. I notice you have a
lot of shoes. Are just one pair always?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, there were so many more questions that I
had as Yeah, I try not to make it about me.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, we'll definitely have him back on for like a
full interview. Yeah yeah, we'll just we'll get the exclusive.
But if you want help with your dating life, we
can help you with that. Email the show. We'll call
that person who's not calling you back and go check
out all of our second date updates. They're available online
wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning
Second date of day.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
First impressions are everything pretty important. Like Brook, what did
you think when you first met me that very first day?
I mean, I remember you trying to put your hands
all over me, But what thoughts you were dancing around
in your mind?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I think you were a promotion kid. I don't know
that you left a huge mark on me. Jeff, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
She was leading the claw marks onto me. That's what's
the main thing.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
She's been cruel for self preservation.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, what I do know is first impressions can make
or break a romantic connection.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You're scared, That's what I remember.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's just the look in Brook's eyes when she was
eyeing my entire body. It was.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
But with first impressions, sometimes it could be the smile
that stands out. It could be the outfit. It could
be something you didn't even expect, like what's happening below
the ankles? The ankles, some action, you got some planner fascy.
It is going on down there, girl, it's working for me.
And I'll just say our listener, Derek had a very
interesting first impression with his date. So let's find out
(01:17):
about it. Derek, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Okay, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Please tell me it's above the ankles.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We'll find out. What's this girl's name that you met recently?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah? I recently met Julia on a dating app.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Okay, is that where you're talking about the first impression
or the first impression when you met in person.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
No, it was when we met in person. And I
know this is going to sound kind of weird, but
she was not quite as cute as her pictures. Oh well, well,
but here's the weird part. Not until later on in
the date.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Were you drinking?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
No, not exactly. The impression I got is that she
kind of forgot about the date and she came in
right from a workout.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Oh that makes sense, so she wasn't all done up.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I see, right, right?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Did she get cuter?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Like the more you got to know her, because I
know some people that, Yeah, Like after you know him,
you're like, oh my god, I could see why they're
so attractive.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Just talking about me again. Over here, we're talking to
Derek about him and Julia.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That was definitely part of it. But there were also
like some circumstances, like as the date progressed.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Oh, it started raining and and so then she was
twirling in the rain.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That would be interesting. Basically, the best part was is
that even though she looked a little like frazzled, I
could tell that she had like a cool vibe. I
could tell she was really stylish. I could tell she
was confident and like the conversation was really flowing. We
were talking about like travel. I had just gone to
London last year and she went to Paris two years ago.
We were sharing stories about that.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Can I ask, do we know where you are? Like
what'd you guys do?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We met at this like rooftop bar.
It was great. We met for drinks and we were
like we got a little food and we were like
eating off each other's plate. Whoa yeah, And honestly you
kind of got like messy would be the way I
would describe it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Like, yes, let's talk about this, let's get into the
messy stuff mess on a rooftop or how messy did
we get?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I would say it was like a date brought to
you by ty to goo.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Spilled.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh yeah I did. I did a couple things. She
made a mess on the cloth napkins and she like
spilled salsa, but it made it look like they were
like bloody napkins, and we were laughing about it. It
was like part of the fun of the day. And
I like, that's something that ran through my mind, is like,
I hope she doesn't just think I'm this like swab
of a guy. But she was just as messy as me,
(03:50):
So I don't think that was it.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I mean, who cares if you inconvenienced everybody in
the bar and all the employees there. As long as
the two of you were vibing. Really, that's all that
matters in.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
This scenario, and the fair, fair, fair.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So how did that night end?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, So this is where I'm like pretty sure that
I didn't read the vibes wrong. Right, So at the end,
she was like, I'm sorry, you know what, I feel
really gross, Like I didn't get a chance to like
clean up, and she was like, do you want to
come over and I'll like clean up. And I don't
think she would have like asked me over if she
wasn't into the date and wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
No, I had this guy texting her friends, I'm just
gonna invite him over for a couple hours.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, well, maybe she wanted him to clean her up,
like she needed an assistant to help.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Them do it, like a pair of monkeys picking bugs
out of each other's hair.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Brook's done it before.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
No, that is definitely a green flag. I don't know
if it's a green flag that she wants a relationship
with you, but it definitely means that she likes you.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, I mean, did you say yes to that invite?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh yeah. We hung out for like several hours and
it was getting late. We were in bed. We didn't
like go all the way. I'm not gonna really get
into the details of that, but okay, I didn't say
the whole night because I was like, I actually do
have to work the next day, so I needed to
be in my space, you know. And I left really late,
(05:17):
and we had like been in bed together, and I
just hope, I don't know, I hope I didn't make
her feel bad about leaving.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
It's possible.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, maybe do you believe a guy who says I
have work in the morning and I have to go today.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
People work on the weekends too.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I mean, I could just see where she may be like,
oh man, he didn't like me.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I think I was.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Like a question though, did you tell her that? Like,
did you explain anything the next day?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Or oh yeah. The first text that I sent to
her was on my way to work, that was like,
hope you slept well and last night was great and
we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Did she respond to that text?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So that's just it. It's been seven or eight days.
I have texted her a few times to like check in.
I haven't been completely ghosted, but I just the not
getting back a lot. Like in the beginning, I got
like one word answers and now it's kind of like trailed.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Off and.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
She's like, yeah, well, hopefully we get more than one
word answers.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
We have to leave a good first impression with her.
Yea all things about first impression.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Her first impression was she wasn't that cute, So we're
good at that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We'll just try and do it the normal way when
we come back, call Julia and get you your second
date update. Right after this hold on second date update,
I'm gonna do a quick recap here on the second
date update if you're just joining us.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Listener.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Derek met Julia at a rooftop bar for drinks and
super messy food she had apparently comes straight from a workout.
So at the end of the date, she invited Derek
to come back to her place because she wanted to
freshen up.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Something more comfortable.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I mean, honestly, is there a better question?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I to ask, we know what that usually means.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, that felt good. It did lead to them in bed.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
They did lie in the same bed at some point
because Derek stayed he said half the night or a
quarter of the night. I'm not really sure how to
explain it, but yeah, didn't stay the whole night. But
now he is not getting a call back and isn't
sure why. And that brings us to this moment right here.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
And remember you said he's not fully being ghosted.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
But it's like little short answers. Something's off.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's weird that there's such a turn, such a turn
in that energy from her.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Derek, did we miss anything that you did wrong or
that you could have done?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah? I don't think so. Like I said, I just
I don't know what's going on. I really like this girl.
I've heard you guys help people before. I've heard people.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Like try to help people.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, but like you get to the bottom of a misunderstanding,
and like I've heard people have a second date and
get past the problem. So I'd like to just know
what the problem is so I can fix it.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Hey, look at that. That's emotional maturity.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Will Yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Don't normally like that here, But that's fine. We'll work
with it. Let's call Julia. We'll see if she picks
up and get those answers you want.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Really, stop being so nice. It's irritating where we go.
She's obviously the problem.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yeah, hello, Hi, we're gonna speak with Julia.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's a ship.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Hey, Julia, thanks for picking up Julia, I said, we
because you're on a radio show right now called Brook
and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Good morning.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Oh oh oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
It doesn't happen very often, I'm sure, mostly because there's
not very many radio shows left.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yah, that's part of it. And this is a segment
that we do on our show called a second date update.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh gosh, Okay, okay, I.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Think it could.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I think this one's going to be good. Honestly, I
think you're going to be excited about this.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I got a good guy. Yeah, and I hope this
doesn't sound weird, but we heard you went out with
a guy named Derek recently.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Oh no, what No, it sounded like you were into Derek.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Maybe it could just be that she's like nervous on
the radio.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Tell her again and you can react again.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
No, I've definitely not been on the radio. But I
don't really want to talk about Derek either.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, Derek told us about the hangout you two had
the other night, and it sounded really fun the way
he described it.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
It was fun good.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I mean, you got to understand how he's confused. You
invited him to like hang out at your place and
now nothing.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yeah. Well so I did invite him over and we
were having a great time. But he went over for
quite a while and he never took his shoes off
in your house.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Or in your apartment is a rule that you have,
Like you take your shoes off when you come in.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I mean there's always two types of places, right, the
shoes on or shoes off are encouraged get everything out.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Of But then I have friends who even for parties
shoes off.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Did you tell him that?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
So, yes, I definitely I am a shoe kind of
off person. But it was our first date. But we're
just sitting on the couch. It's okay, wasn't completely walking
around my apartment.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
And and it can really ruin your outfit, like you're
on a first date.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
You play on the look like who knows what kind
of socks he had on? Maybe that was the issue.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah, yeah, if you think about that, take them off,
skirt and you.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Guys know exactly how men think. So true.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
They meant there's a lot of shoeheads out there that
love their shoes.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
How to go together?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oah, did you consider that?
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Julia?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (10:59):
And I didn't want to be rude either, And so
that's why later when we were watching TV and getting
kind of comfortable with each other and everything, I was like,
do you want to get comfortable and take your shoes off?
And he was like no, oh, And that was part
of weird.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's really funny because it's hard to snuggle with shoes on.
You means it right, It means that your feet are
always on the ground.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
But it gets worse, you guys, it gets worse.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
How does it get worse?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well?
Speaker 7 (11:26):
I don't I mean maybe he didn't tell you, but
we did end up in my bed. Yeah, weird with
his shoes still on?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
What okay, he got into your bed with his shoes on? Ew,
that would be uncomfortable and disgusting.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, how did you react when he did that?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
I was appalled and I'm like, what are you doing?
Get your shoes off of my bed? And he's like,
this is my thing. I don't take my shoes off,
and I'm like, wow, am I in the twilight zone?
Are you insane? You know? I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I think I just.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
Kind of freaked out, and faithfully he left, like twenty
thirty minutes later.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I think that, like the clothes that you wore for
the day are gross in your bed, Like the things
you sit on and touch and move around, like the
bottom of your shoes are all over everything.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Because I'm not I did not. I'm sorry. I did
not expect it to be an issue that I keep
my shoes on.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That that's really is shoe boys on the phone, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Julia, that's Derek. He's been listening this entire time on
the other line.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Really, it's not really Derek, is it.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yes, it's me.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah? Yeah, I can't really believe that that's the reason
you're not like returning my decks?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Well, what, you've never heard that complaint before?
Speaker 7 (12:43):
You don't know anything. No, do you know anyone else
who wears their shoes as much as you do?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I've been doing this like a really long time. This
has been kind of my thing for like fifteen years.
I wear shoes twenty three and a half hours a day.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Maybe, Wow, what's break forth like a shower? Hopefully?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah? Basically when I shower, I take the shoes like.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
A comfort, like a security blanket type of thing.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do you have weird feet or is it the fashion
thing that the girls were saying?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't know. I mean the best thing I can
describe it. Like, I am definitely as a person an extrovert,
but my feet are introverted. Oh yeah, And but if
you think about it, it is a lot more efficient.
It saves me like two to three minutes in the morning.
That really adds up. That's a couple extra hours a month.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
I don't right, you have to take your shoes off
to put your pants on and then put.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Them back on. Who's taking their pants off? I'm not
taking my pants off.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You got with her both women to take your pants off?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Kind of skill.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Wait.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Wait, if you take tear away pants, then you don't
have to take them off over your shoes. They're very useful.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I actually think there could be a solution to all
of this.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Like I hear you you got your shoe saying whatever
that's you man? Is there a way you get like
house slippers where you could like at least switch from.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, definitely not. Look, I live a no barefoot decisions lifestyle.
If I want to be ready, I want to stay
ready right now.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's a good It's not a good point, Jeff.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
It is if there's a.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Fire, he is going to be the first one out
run out barefoot, but not as fast, not as quickly.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I think you would run equally as fast as.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's like you with your glasses. If you take your
glasses off, you're lost in this year handicap. You can't
get out the door.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
That's because I can't see it, Jeff.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's because your glasses are introverts.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah, they're shy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
They need to be on your face. I feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
It would make my eyes intoverts. Not my glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Your whole body's weird, weird. We have no confidence. I
feel like we're come into common ground here.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So Lily, he said, notice slippers.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, yeah, ground that the shoes stand on. So let's
offer to send you guys out on another date. We
would pay for Julia. What do you think give him
one more chance?
Speaker 7 (15:03):
I honestly can't. It's so strange to me. Oh no,
I don't think I can adapt. Oh he's not willing
to adapt. Why should I?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think that this is I know you said that
you've never heard this as a problem before, but this
has got to be part of an issue with every
woman you've ever been with. Yeah, there's like even socks
on in bed are an issue for most wives.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, it's never really come up. But also I haven't
been like actively dating. Like seriously, I.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Think that you've heard of a farmer's can I can't
imagine his shoe tan.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, I just say you need to work through it.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I mean, to me, it's not a problem. It's a strength.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Okay, I'll be mature. I don't. So you deserve to
be with someone who agrees with you. Maybe you'll kind
of a twenty three hour wearing girl, and.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You'll he's a woman out there who has her shoes
on all the time, and she's going to be appreciative
when she finally walks into the room and sees you.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
How much you want to bet his soul may works
at a shoe store.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'm sorry, man, you tried.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What can I say?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, but we'll be here for you if you ever
need our support in the future. Okay, some arch support,
of course, is what I mean. Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We've had a lot of guys come through the show
in the last year, not a lot of shoe guys.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, that was so weird. Yeah, I was trying to
be open.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
He's got his shoe anxiety or something like feed anxiety.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I was trying to think it would be worse if
he never took shoes off, or if he never puts
shoes on.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I would take no shoes ye more normal, like when.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You go to a wedding, he's gonna be shoeless.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, I know, but I would take that over the shoes.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean, I am kind of surprised that nobody in
his life has brought this up to him in the
last like fifteen years. That seems pretty unlikely.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
It's weird, But.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I guess some people get confidence from like a nice haircut,
some people get it from a nice dress.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Some people just get it from being single for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Because they keep their shoes on for twenty three and
a half hours every day. I notice you have a
lot of shoes. Are just one pair always?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, there were so many more questions that I
had as Yeah, I try not to make it about me.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Well, we'll definitely have him back on for like a
full interview. Yeah yeah, we'll just we'll get the exclusive.
But if you want help with your dating life, we
can help you with that. Email the show. We'll call
that person who's not calling you back and go check
out all of our second date updates. They're available online
wherever you get your podcasts at Brooke and Jeffrey
Speaker 1 (17:48):
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