February 18, 2025 • 34 mins
You may have heard of him as part of the San Fernando Valley’s, These Foos, cracking jokes and popping off on YouTube! But today we get a deep dive into who Dominiq Sotelo is. The quiet, reserved one of the group shares his childhood, his personal connection with God, and how living off survival mode has led him into owning multiple businesses. Life has dealt him a hand but he has overcome and shares how on this episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back to the Overcover podcast. You guys. I am
your host Jennica Lopez. Thank you guys so much for
choosing to listen and watch to this this episode today,
Happy Tuesday. You guys are probably already know by the
title and the thumbnail you very familiar face. We got
the one and only Dominic you last name if you
(00:28):
guys don't know him. He is part of the fools.
These fools, the group of you know, twenty guys, how
many is it? Eight?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Eight?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
A bunch of cool guys have such a well, you know,
we have an ongoing friendship relationship here, really cool. We've
worked together before and I wanted to take the opportunity
to just have a little, you know, comfortable, little chit
chat with Dom and see where he's at. And like
I told him before when we start, before we started,
(00:57):
I was like, you know what, no one really knows
much of about Dom, about his life. You know, you're
the quiet one. Everyone else is loud. Everyone's cool, like,
so shout out these fools, everybody. I fuck with y'all,
Like everybody, you know, I don't even know what your
I don't know I'm not even you know, but whatever. Anyways,
you guys are dope and cool. But if I could
(01:19):
pull you guys apart and do one by one or whatever,
I would love to. And I love that I got
to start with you because you know, you're dope, You're cool,
You're I don't know. I want to see what you're about.
How you grew up your childhood. I feel like nobody knows.
I want to know how you got into the fools,
how did that start? Obviously, well, you know you don't
(01:40):
have to answer all of that right now, but but
like you know your journey, Like I feel like, you know,
how was your childhood, growing up, your relationship with your parents,
all that?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I mean I feel like I am pretty private
with my life. I don't really post a lot of
the stuff that I kind of do, but I have
like a podcast myself too, but I haven't done anything
like year just because we moved offices, but kind of
talked about my story on there, like the hardships and
stuff like that, what we kind of dealt with. I
don't know if we're going to get into that one today,
(02:10):
but not growing up, I had a real father, I guess, right,
but he got locked up when I was like three
or four, and I had a stepdad as well.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So my dad actually got deported back to Mexico.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He actually came back when I was like twenty one two.
So now he's kind of like a part of our
lives and he wants to be there because a lot
has kind of changed within like that what fifteen year gap, right,
But I.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Grew up with my stepdad and my mom.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It was kind of like patri I guess I have
my half sister and my other full sister. We grew
up in a way we kind of saw like what
it was like to like, you know, experience a lot
of things, and then we also grew up where it
was like everything can be taken away in just one second,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So that's kind of what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We like we were able to experience a lot like
growing up, and then when it came into high school,
it's like when everything kind of just I don't know.
That's when I actually started working for my like working
for like myself, like I need I need money. My
mom asked me for gas money, and I'm like, damn,
like this is the time I need to just like
focus up. And I was like sixteen at the time.
Parents were just fighting divorcing. They officially divorced, ended up
(03:23):
moving out like to my grandma's garage, just feeding for myself.
Since I was like kind of like sixteen, I was
thankful enough to like my parents actually buy me, Like
it was like a thirty five hundred dollars card, like
a Prius, like two thousand and two Prius, and.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That was like my pribadely enjoy. You know. I would
look at my.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Friends and like, damn, my friends have camaros and like whatever.
Because I don't know if you're familiar with Alimani, but
like I had a lot of friends from Alimenyi and
private school, so like, you know, I would always hang
out with them on the off days, and they always
had like nice cars.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They're like some of their kids, the kids that go
to that school pull up in like porsches and stuff
like that. You know. So I'm like, damn, like why
don't I have this? Why don't have this?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And like I don't know, I take it as a
blessing because I didn't want any handouts and I didn't
get any handouts, so it was actually really good.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
My dad had to do what he had to do
to survive. My mom did what she didn't to survive,
and then we all kind of had to feed for
like ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So that's what kind of like I feel.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like molded me to like start doing things on my
own and be, yeah, a man basically.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I moved out completely at eighteen with like from my
family and everything. Just my friend was actually able to
bring me in with him. I stayed in one of
his uh one of his rooms at his house, which
I'm thankful for that when I used to work at
like La Fitness and stuff. But yeah, I've just always
feel like I feed for myself and I'm still like
(04:44):
I'm still not where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But you've always been like fight or flight, yeah, like
surviving basically, yeah, like living your life. I feel that
because my parents also got divorced when I was like five.
My dad also got locked up. He was away in jail,
so it's like I never really had that father figure either.
So it's like that image of like, Okay, how is
a man supposed to be? How am I supposed to
(05:08):
grow up or how like? And I've seen it in
my brothers too, because they don't have their dad in
their life. So it's I see it it, Yeah, Like
you see how important is that a father figure is
a part of your life and what it does to
a man obviously, like now that you're older, like have
you seen how it affected you back then and now
to this?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, I've always like I've always thought like back then
like them, you know, what was it like to actually
have someone that like taught me certain things? You know,
like even the sex talk was like with my mom,
like just make sure like use condoms.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like stuff like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And I even like I didn't even know what a
barber was until after high school. So even like looking
back in like my high school pictures, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Like, why how did I get these ugly haircuts? Like damn?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But I just see that and I'm like, I know
what I want as a man, as a father and
as a husband, you know, to be like for my
future wife or whatever the case is. Like I feel
like I've learned a lot, and like I don't know
when that time comes, Like I know I'm going to
be a great husband, a great father, you know, Like
that's what I want because I don't want my kids.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To go through I kind of like you don't want
them to miss out on what you didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, literally, so get that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's dope all right. So okay, wait back to the
high school thing. What high school did you go to?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Gernada?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I went to Birmingham for like two years.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, Birmingham solid, not too far apart.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Always been in the valley, always been in the actually
moved every two years in my life. Okay, Like since
I was like seven, I lived in Sherman Oaks and
then I went from Sherman Oaks to Palmdal Palm del
to Silmar, and Silmar.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
To just always Valley.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, just literally always valley. But I'm ready for like
a home home, you know. But we'll see whenever I
have kids and stuff like that. I was finally settled
down maybe yeah, whenever.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So how did it? What happened with the fools? How
did that happen? Who'd you meet? Who? Like?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, I actually met Brian first? So Brian was he
used to cut hair at the time. Okay, I actually
met him through like a mutual barber. I guess I
had a barber that knew him. They used to cut
the same the same barber shop. And then I like
he started like talking about Brian what he's doing and stuff.
And I had a sneaker star at the time.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So I had a sneakerstar on Melrose and it was
like really popping off of like TikTok.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah cookies and Kicksies. Yeah, so I had that and
it was really popping off of TikTok.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Like I had a lot of people like come, like
a lot of TikTok stars and stuff like that. And
then I got introduced to Brian, started going to Brian
for like my haircuts, and we would just kind of
talk and like I've always been like on the I've
never really wanted to have like social media like followers
or like anything like that. I just wanted to be
low key, like, you know, I'm doing my thing, but
ended up being you know, not being that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, but we.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I met him and then I like I just believed
in the journey division. I was like, Okay, I see
what you're what you're doing. I like, I believe in
you percent and he knows that, like, you know, I
believed in them like the very beginning. I think it
was like their first year into social media, and I
had a lot of connections, so anything that they needed
I was just like, Okay, let's figure it out.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Boom boom, I got you.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Don't even worry about it, Like you know, I literally
didn't charge them for nothing, you know, Like I think
the day they had their first ever pop up at
my store and I told them, I'm like, hey, let's
just have a pop up. Let's see how you engagement
really is, right, like, let's see how it go. Yeah,
cut the waters, and it fucking it went. I mean,
can I cuss story?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It went, It went crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It was really good. Everybody got lit. It was a
fun time for everybody. And that's when I knew. I
was like, damn, like you know, it's real, real motion,
like like I believe in them and whatever they needed,
you know, I was just there, like I didn't even
charging for that pop up, not that I needed to,
I wanted to. It's just like it was more so
me as a homide just like let's just see where
this goes, Like let's see if a pop up is
actually like going to do something. And even that day,
(08:52):
like I think I lost like fifteen twenty grand that day,
just because like when you have pop ups at a store,
nobody buys anything to be basically like you just do
it for like engagement, and like at the time, we
didn't need like we were pretty read like two point
something million on TikTok like as a store, so it's
like we didn't really need it. It was just more
so like me just wanting to Yeah, I'm like a
people pleaser. I like to please people. So it's like
(09:13):
I would do a lot of things for someone without
asking for anything return, you know. So it's like I've
always just helped these foods with anything. They used to have,
like an intro. I used to rent like sling shots
out like in front of my store, and then there
was they needed like an intro video, so I give
them all four steam shots like oh go rite and
whenever you want. Obviously it's going to help the business too,
but yeah, just any time I was able to help,
(09:34):
I was just like boom, and I never asked for
anything in return. And then slowly but surely they're like, hey,
let's just like you're always around us, You're helping us
a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I help them with their business side. To this day,
I'm still.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Helping like with a lot of the back end stuff,
and I'm okay with that, you know. Like I want
them to succeed, be organized and and see them prosper.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I'm a part of the journey. Why not, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So yeah, that's how everything went down, and I'm still
helping to this day, which thankful for you know.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That's top though, No, because honestly, like obviously, I mean
as a valley girl, like everybody knows who these fools
are like. But then but that's what I'm saying. It
was a valley thing and then it just went crazy
like out of nowhere, which is again, I congratulations to
you guys, like again, like I fuck with y'all, Like
(10:22):
you guys are so cool, each and every one of
I don't I don't know everybody, but the ones that
I do know, like you know, it's cool, like you
guys are you guys are dope, and I can see
the genuine and the authenticity, Like you guys are just
fucking random ass like.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I don't know, you can just do anything, and it's
just like I don't know, there's some characters in these foods,
so it's like I'm not really much of a character,
I feel like, because.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, you're always like I'm just to myself.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, like you are No, they're just like they're loud
and knowing they'll just say.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Whatever they to bring that balance.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Literally, so I've been I mean, lately, I feel like
I've been coming like just trying more in the vlogs
and kind of show my personality because I don't really
like to show my personality.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know why. It's just a thing about me
that you know, I don't know, I just don't. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
There's so many people looking at you in your life.
You know, you say the one wrong thing, it's over with,
you know. So I'm overthinker, So like I can't just
be screaming dumb shit up.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know, we're gonna go on a quick break and
we'll be right back with more of dumb Welcome back,
you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But now they're funny even off camera. I have an
amazing time with all of them, Like they're they're just
cool guys in general.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think everything obviously has like a reason.
Obviously I know that you know, you go to church
and your.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Face to the same church.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We go to the same church.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You guys, you see each other all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No, but it's cool and I feel like, you know,
people need that people need like influencers, and like obviously
it's cool, but it's also cooler to influence people to
like guide them to something good and great and that's
also like concrete and that will not fail them. And
you know, obviously I've seen and we've been around each other,
and I've seen you at church and you also got
(12:05):
baptized there. Yeah, and which is huge because people have
this like stigma on guys, like you know, like it's
just you know, the whole motions things and like God
and whatever, and I kind of want to like hear
your perspective or like how you felt in that moment,
what made you, you know, lead that to that decision,
like because a lot of guys don't get it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I feel like it's just more so so I grew
up Catholic, Okay, so I was actually like a peer
leader for my church. So it's crazy to like kind
of like make that switch.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But in all.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Reality, it's just like a real closer relationship to God
at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So at the time, like as a Catholic, it was
more so like now that I look back at it,
because I went to a Catholic school for like my
fifth fifth grade and then just like one year I
think I think it was fifth or sixth grade something
like that. But that's when I like believe got like
my confirmation, I already I was already baptized, and then my.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Communion the order.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I did all those three in order to get married
or whatever the case was, right, that's always like the thing.
But the church was just so structured where I knew
when to scene, when to sit down, went to stand up,
Like it was just you know, and I kind of
left that in a way and just believed in like
obviously manifestation like stuff like that. And I was like, okay,
(13:23):
but for me, for me, I didn't really believe in
like a God. And then recently I just went through
a whole bunch of shit, like two years ago, a
lot of like money was just everywhere, and I just
had like not necessarily evil thoughts, but like just like yeah,
I was just like hey, like I don't think like
you know, certain things is like I'm like happening for
(13:44):
a reason, you know. And it was like a lot
of stuff going on. So I was like damn. My
friend bought me to church, which was freedom and it
was a Christian church. So I was like, Okay, I've
never been to a Christian church. Well I have, but
like not that type.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Of Christian ch know, it's not as different from a
cad Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Different.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So I went and I just like I ended up
liking it. I loved it, and then I kept going
back and it's just like I would go by myself,
and I'm like, I'm mean using me, I likely to
go by myself. I'm just like whatever, like I don't
need validation, validation from like anybody to like, you know,
come with me or like you know, make something like that.
Like I like going by myself because it's just it's
just me and you know, the pastor and we're just
was just hearing his the sermon and I'm just there
(14:24):
like it feels good, you know. And I actually I'm
doing I don't even think like nobody knows this, but
like I'm doing the Monday boot Camp Spiritual. So the
last like two weeks I've been doing like a zoom
call with Pastor Justice and everything.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's been good.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I don't know, I've just I was I felt like
I was lost and I had just like a lot
of thoughts in my head that I wanted to it
was just a bad investment gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, and yeah, I just decided.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I was like, you know what, I don't want to
be thinking about like my bad thoughts that I was thinking,
and I'm gonna just get baptized. And I was already
going to church. And when I got baptized, it's like,
you know, you leave the olde you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And becoming the new you.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm just like, I want to keep continuing this path
that I'm on and I don't know, I just want
to be a man of God and as much as
I can, even like they're drinking and stuff, like, I've
been trying to cut it out, especially with these fees.
It's not easy. But yeah, I just I'm trying to
get closer and hopefully.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know, I don't know, No, I feel I completely
agree and I and honestly, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
I feel like it was you or somebody else. But
I think I started going because you posted it solid
and I was just like and I was like, and
I was like, you know what, it's down the street
obviously now I mean you nowhere I live or whatever,
but like it's down the street. It's easy and it's
so good good, Like every time, I'm like, I love
(15:42):
them so much. Like there, it's it's an hour and
it's they get to the point and you feel something.
You leave feeling better, and it's like, damn, like that
is that's what a church is supposed to feel like,
especially like growing up in like a Catholic church or
other churches that make you feel like like this didn't
feel good.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Even like when I would go to the Spanish churches.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yes, like I was honestly like I felt not to
be mean, but I felt like just bored there.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, and you weren't connected, Yeah, it wasn't connected guys
in like a home.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, this I feel more connected.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And I feel like obviously, like you know, the Bible
is the Bible, so regardless, like as long as we're
hearing the words in the Bible, then yeah, as.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Long as you're feeding yourself whatever, and it's just you know,
maybe I don't have you brought any of your friends there?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, I brought in No, not these foods, but I
brought in like a couple of my friends that are
close to me there. My mom as well, she was
she was raised Catholic as well, and she actually has
like a different religion that she's on, but slowly she's
actually been she's been going to shepherd a lot too.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that one. I've for good things
about that one, but I like it, and I like,
so thank you obviously, you know, for posting it and
sharing it your journey and all that, because I just
feel like when it comes to guys talking about it,
like they get a little bit weird, and especially when
you post your boats, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's dope,
Like you know, like you don't have to do that
because you're also an influencer with a bunch of guys,
and like they perceive you as something like they see
(17:08):
you like oh like and then they think you're gonna
be like the most holiest person and like completely change.
It's like you could be, but it's like no, like
you're being realistic to who you are and being true
and like you know, obviously the drinking, Like we're not perfect.
We're not like obviously like once we make that decision
or whatever, like it's not crispy clean like right away,
(17:29):
like you're meant to fail, Like we're born sinners and
that's okay, and like we're meant to learn and obviously
that's why God has grace and we're able to learn
and whatever. Even for me, like I decided this year
I don't want to smoke as much, like smoking heavy
really yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Like yeah, I stopped smoking too, well, not completely, but
like I was socially smoking.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, that's what. And that's where I'm at right now.
I'm like, Okay, I'm not gonna buy it anymore. I'm
not gonna like, you know, I don't want to. I
did it because I was anxious a lot, Like I
had a lot of anxiety. I'm like, no, like I can't.
I can't. My body can't be dependent on this, like
I need to like change the shift, Like what am
I going to do?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Then?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know, I started going to read the Bible more
or like listening to worship or something else that like
leads me to do something better other than that, you know,
so I get it where it's like it's not the
easiest thing, but it's like it's better. I don't know.
I think when you go through it, you understand it more.
Like yeah, so it's like I don't know. But anyways,
(18:27):
you guys, if you guys. Yeah, if you guys want
to go to a church, freedom church is where it's at,
but you know it is it's also our home, like
that's a home space, like it's our little at least
for me.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Like no, for me too, Like I had a problem
with someone else going on. I was like, bro, this
is my home, Like why, like you know, I was like, no, no,
I just want to be here.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, that's but exactly like if you guys go, please go,
like you know, but also like respecting each other's space
as well, like obviously like I'm cool, I'm cool with
saying hi to people. Yeah, like whatever, but and if
you were a church and you'ready saved, that's even better.
But it's like you know, like you know, it's just
it's a Sunday, like we don't want to you know,
at least for me. I'm just like, let me have
(19:13):
my little Sunday. Okay. So obviously you mentioned that you
had your business, Yes, Cookies and Kicks, but you also
have solar panel. Yea calla Maxon Paxon? Is that because
of the street Packson?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
No, my partner's dog is named Paxson, so like he
actually names his dog after it was a five point
zero supercharger, so Pa and then his dog. And then
when we're thinking of a name to name the business,
we're just like, we love Woolf Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, yeah, the movie, right.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And I think it was like a lion like the
image had it was and it was Stratton. Yeah, I
was like straightened something. And we're like, what's the cool
name that we do, and then we just like, okay,
we'll just do Paxson for now.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And it was just stuck.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And it just stuck. And then we used to have
a logo like a silhouette of like, yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, I want to know more about it, how you
got into it because it's random solar padel of business.
I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean it's dope.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, I mean in our society, I feel like a
lot of people believe in like the sexy business. Right,
you got to have a like clothing brand or you
got to have I don't know, something just cool that
people like look up to and like that's not really
I don't know a lot of people are doing it
and it's like you gotta be careful with that. But
this I got in because of my partners. Literally there
(20:34):
my best friend, which is like I've been friends with
for like fourteen fifteen years maybe more. He wanted to
start it because his little brother was actually in it.
So shout out Alex and Daniel. His little brother was
already selling solar and while he was in the military,
right and then he would call him and be like, hey,
like I made this much money off of one deal,
you know, like it actually, like it's good because it
helps people save money, you make money, and like everybody wins,
(20:57):
you know. So then I started looking into it and
was like, okay, like you know, I think we can
do this like on our own. We don't need a
middleman basically to like take ourselves and get a commission off.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
We could do it ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Then we all started just like learning scripts, learning how to.
We kind of just took the model that they were
learned or that they had learned and brought it to
Pacson and just started teaching other people how to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We used to meet as Starbucks.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's kind of where like our meetings were, and then
from there we went to my friends living room. From
our friends living room, we had an office and then
another office after then now we're at like our third office,
which is like it's nice, Like I don't just see
where it's you're.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Doing like seminars and stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Right, yeah, now we're doing seminars. So we're doing seminars
to kind of recruit. I'm using the following that I'm
getting now to help the business. We're actually one of
the I look at a lot of solar companies and
see like their views like engagement and stuff like that.
We're one of the biggest ones that have the most engagement.
Like I'm using it as a tool.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
To just go to manage.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So the business.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
The business is like it'll start five years ago, but
the goal was always.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
To sell it.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So that's like what we're doing right now. It's we're
just keeping everything organized. And it's cool that like my
business partners are also in the military because we landed
like pretty big contracts right now with the government, and
if you're in the military and you're a veteran, you
actually get like a certain percentage more so, like like
of the deals in like in California and stuff. So
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that's going to be happening this year. So I feel
like a lot of it came from in like the
engagement and like seeing our logo everywhere, which which is
what I want. I want our logo just everywhere. Like
my one of my putners about a raptor an hour
and a half away, he's like, hey, I've seen that
logo before, Like where's it from.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's like a solar companies, Like oh damn Packs Energy
and like that, like that's fire. You know, that's cool,
Like that's what that's what it's all about. You know,
people are going to see the logo.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They're gonna we're gonna start selling stuff like that, like
you know, and we're very like keen Onto.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Like just like our culture here.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So it's like we won't just hire anybody. We have
to have people that like have their head on the
shoulders want to make money. Like we have core values
in our company, where like we have a sign that
like literally lists all of our core values and we
try to live by those all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You have a good ass head on your shoulders, yeah, honestly,
Like and I think, I mean I'm gonna I feel
like I could speak into it because I mean I
don't know. I'm sure you know some of my life,
but not all of it. It's where it's like, it's
where where you're living to you're surviving. So it's like
your next what are the next moves? Like you're and
(23:37):
you're placed in the space where it's like you're forced
to mature more like mentally and like in your life
as well, and you have no other choice. So it's like,
you're twenty eight, twenty eight. Are you turned twenty nine
this year? I am Huh, I'm twenty twenty eight this year,
So I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Are you turning twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, But like I feel like I have the mind
of like a thirty five year old. Yeah, I too,
like and I feel like because of our life circumstances
and everything that you know that I've personally been through,
like I've had no other choice.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I had to make sure quick exactly like.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You know, And I feel like certain people can tap
into that. And I'm sure that you know, you've you've
grown and you have also been in situations that weren't
ideal and oh.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I made a lot of mistakes
in my life. But it's not about how you like,
you know, take it. It's just how you bounce back
from it. Yeah, I made a lot of mistakes in
my life, and do I regret it. No, it was
a lesson, Yeah, but you just got to learn from
the lessons. You know, you can only learn from your failures.
So I took it as a as a big jump.
I did a lot of things in my life where
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a lot of people at my age weren't doing.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's for sure. And I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I don't take that back, you know, at least try.
I haven't worked at like actual job since twenty seventeen, twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Maybe it's not for you. I'm saying, that's not your businessman,
like you have the tri business man. Okay, we're going
to go on a quick break and we'll be right
back with more of dumb Welcome back you guys, packs
and sells. What are we doing next? What do we
feel like?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm going into real estate heavily, heavily. Yeah, that's one
thing I've always wanted. I read books on like wholesaling
and all this stuff. So it's like, yeah, section eight properties,
like Josh, Josh probably Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Here's a friend I know, Josh, but yeah, yeah, that'd
be cool though, And I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Mean, you could do it, but we can do it
again too.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So the goal is if we do sell, would probably
open up another solar because we have maybe like about
fifteen years to we run up solar till it becomes
like everywhere, and every year more and more people just
want solar like it just it's making more sense for people.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Back then, I get it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It used to be like a scam and a lot
of businesses like went down because they would install on
people take the money and just like they went out
of business, which we literally like, it's hard, it's hard,
like you know, but yeah, everything is electric. People are
getting electric cars and then they charge at home and
forget that their bill is going to go up and
you know the only way to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So okay, So as a businessman, head of a businessman
mindset over here, what are your three or let's say
two things you could tell somebody that like are looking
into opening a business or guiding them.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Consistency for sure, number one. That's like the main thing.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I feel like, if you're not consistent, it's not going
to really go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, and always.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Always be learning. You always got to just keep learning.
You don't know enough, like you just don't. If you're
not learning, you're not doing yourself any favorites right there.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
For sure. You always got to either.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Read, find something interesting and just learn from it. There's
news every single day that stuff is happening around the world,
and if you're not caught up, then you're gonna get
left behind.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You guys heard it here. I mean he's been managing
businesses his whole life, basically. Literally all right, So I'm
asking for the girls dom, What is your love life
like my love life.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And go right now, just enjoying, enjoying life. Whether someone
comes into my life and I want to take it
seriously cool, if it happens, I probably will take it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Seriously, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
What are you looking for to take it serious?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What does a girl have to have or to be
to be serious to take it serious?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know. She's just.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
She.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't want like a like someone that's just always
outside doing stuff. She needs to go to church, doesn't
matter if you're Catholic Christian, just like have. She just
needs to have a good head on their shoulders, you know. Literally,
that's all I already asked.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
For, you know, simple man. Yeah, Well, let me think.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And she got to understand my lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Too, honestly, because it's complicated.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It is.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
But I feel like in every relationship it's just about communication,
like at the end of the day, like that's one thing.
Like I used to be hard on it. It's just
like I would never really open up. It's like who
I was like talking to. But now it's like if
I going to work things out, just like yeah, yeah,
you know, like update, update her, like you know, update
each other. Just make sure like there's no gray areas
(28:13):
if something's wrong, like what's wrong, let's fix it. Let's
not like dwell on it the next day, two days,
three days, whatever, you know, and then just let it
sweep it another sure about it, but yeah, just talk
about it, like you know, I'm at that age where
it's like we got to be just mature with things.
If things aren't going to work out, like let me know, now,
let's rip the band, new job and focus on you know,
like finding somebody else, because you know, I'm not trying
(28:33):
to waste time anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
We're dating to marry, Yeah, dating to marry.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because the time is sticking. I feel it because it's
like I get it because it's just not. Yeah, we
don't want to waste our time anymore. It's like we're
way too grow. We have too much on our plate,
responsible mature over here, Like I.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Don't want to be dealing with a girl that's like
outside where you at stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like no, dude, no time.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You still want to be going out on private jets
and doing all these things like oh, that's not the
good for me.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I mean, there you guys go. I mean you guys
know where to find him. Okay, So speaking of social
media and everything, like obviously you mentioned about understanding your
lifestyle and whatever and completely get in respect it. Do
you feel what do you feel is like the misconception
about you that people like, hm, like domb is this
(29:25):
or people what is one thing that we're like, oh dumb,
I thought you would be like this, or like I
don't know, they probably got wrong about you.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I feel like I I portray myself pretty well, like
how I how I really am on Instagram? Yeah, or
like social media, I don't really try to hide anything,
or like like I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, let me tell you. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Why you heard some stuff about me.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I've heard stuff about everybody, but I'm not you know,
I don't. I like to get to know the person,
not based off that. But that's side note. But first impression,
I I thought you were mean.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I thought you oh you know what? Okay, I get
that a lot, but I have like a like a
god of them here, just.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Like you have your unrest.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But yeah, literally I just be like, yeah, I almost
got into fights because of it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Really, like literally like what are you looking at? Like
bro the soun's eyes, Like what do you want me
to do?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know? But now I get that a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Actually, you're right, You're right. I actually get that a lot.
Everybody thinks I'm an asshole or like yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You're really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
No, you're really really nice, like you're dope like I said,
like you're dope in like you're kind. But yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Like when you first like meet.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
People, Yeah, especially guys, guys really think like I'm an asshole.
Like I don't know, not to be like rude or anything,
but like if they're like with their girl whatever, and
I'm like, yeah, I'm just like I'm just a happy
person too.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's like like hey, how are you? Like? How nice
to meet you as well?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know, like girl, it's like, bro like, I'm not like,
I'm not even like that, Like I like even if
like a girl would hit me up and she has
a boyfriend and I see it, like, I'm like, but
what are you doing? You know, like, it's just weird.
It's weird energy. I just don't I believe in karma.
So it's like if I do that to a girl
and they have a boy or a guy that has
a girlfriend, it's kind of fucked up, right, I wouldn't
want that to meet.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You, wouldn't want to be on you either. All right,
well let's look back. We're looking back on our whole lives.
Your whole life dumb, right, Obviously it's a lot, even
through a lot, but you've also succeeded on a lot
of things, and I'm sure God has been a foundation
in that. What is something that you could say that
(31:33):
overall your life you've just learned and that you could
just share and maybe give hope to other people.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Bouncing back is real, It is real. It's one hundred
percent real. I've been at the lowest of the lowest,
and even back then, I knew that. I'm just I'm
gonna get I'm gonna get through this. I'm going to
get through this even when I like, I shouldn't feel
that way, because, like I'm telling you, if I had
(31:59):
some like some stories to tell you where like I've
seen like the irs take every dollar from my account,
like my business accounts, everything just because I didn't pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It was just like a big big deal that time,
and we had lost like I think it was like
one hundred and something thousand, and it was just like
I had zero money, zero, zero money, and then I
didn't know what to do. I am glad I have
like my partnery for Solar because I just like everything
was just not going. I forgot what else was it,
But like something happened here, and then the money here,
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and then another thing happened here, and it all happened
at the same time, and I was like, bro, like
how am I going to do this? Like how am
I gonna come back from this? And I just believed
in I have the right people around me too, but
I just believed in I will bounce back, and I
did bounce back.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Bounce back is freaking real. You just got to believe in.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yourself to be honest, that's really all it is. I'm
not where I want to be, but I know that
regardless someone you get there.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, maybe even when you get there too, Like you're
just like, is not what your ideal your plan with
at the end of the day, and maybe better than
what you have or whatether you're dreaming though you know,
we don't know, We don't know the plans God, But honestly,
thank you so much. I really appreciate like diving in
and getting to know you, and I think that it's
(33:17):
important because obviously vulnerability is not easy, but it's also
powerful and like to share, and I'm happy and I
have the pleasure in the honor, you know, because honestly, again,
like you're really really cool, Like I could see your
authenticity and you're a genuine guy. And I ultimately just
wish you the best and everything anding that you do
(33:38):
and succeed. And I know that God's not going to
fail you and your family and you know, whatever the
case may be, and I just pray that everything goes well.
Please share your socials so that everybody can find you.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
YEAHMB cop on everything dumb Underscore copp On literally everything, Instagram, Snapchat,
TikTok made it easy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Dumb cop I like it. Well, thank you so much.
I appreciate you so so much. Again, God bless you
and everything that you.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Thank you guys so much for watching and listening to
This episode makes you guys like common. Subscribe, leave a review,
and I will see you guys next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Overcome for Podcast is a production of iheartm Podcast Network.
Welcome back to the Overcover podcast. You guys. I am
your host Jennica Lopez. Thank you guys so much for
choosing to listen and watch to this this episode today,
Happy Tuesday. You guys are probably already know by the
title and the thumbnail you very familiar face. We got
the one and only Dominic you last name if you
(00:28):
guys don't know him. He is part of the fools.
These fools, the group of you know, twenty guys, how
many is it? Eight?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Eight?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
A bunch of cool guys have such a well, you know,
we have an ongoing friendship relationship here, really cool. We've
worked together before and I wanted to take the opportunity
to just have a little, you know, comfortable, little chit
chat with Dom and see where he's at. And like
I told him before when we start, before we started,
(00:57):
I was like, you know what, no one really knows
much of about Dom, about his life. You know, you're
the quiet one. Everyone else is loud. Everyone's cool, like,
so shout out these fools, everybody. I fuck with y'all,
Like everybody, you know, I don't even know what your
I don't know I'm not even you know, but whatever. Anyways,
you guys are dope and cool. But if I could
(01:19):
pull you guys apart and do one by one or whatever,
I would love to. And I love that I got
to start with you because you know, you're dope, You're cool,
You're I don't know. I want to see what you're about.
How you grew up your childhood. I feel like nobody knows.
I want to know how you got into the fools,
how did that start? Obviously, well, you know you don't
(01:40):
have to answer all of that right now, but but
like you know your journey, Like I feel like, you know,
how was your childhood, growing up, your relationship with your parents,
all that?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, I mean I feel like I am pretty private
with my life. I don't really post a lot of
the stuff that I kind of do, but I have
like a podcast myself too, but I haven't done anything
like year just because we moved offices, but kind of
talked about my story on there, like the hardships and
stuff like that, what we kind of dealt with. I
don't know if we're going to get into that one today,
(02:10):
but not growing up, I had a real father, I guess, right,
but he got locked up when I was like three
or four, and I had a stepdad as well.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So my dad actually got deported back to Mexico.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
He actually came back when I was like twenty one two.
So now he's kind of like a part of our
lives and he wants to be there because a lot
has kind of changed within like that what fifteen year gap, right,
But I.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Grew up with my stepdad and my mom.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
It was kind of like patri I guess I have
my half sister and my other full sister. We grew
up in a way we kind of saw like what
it was like to like, you know, experience a lot
of things, and then we also grew up where it
was like everything can be taken away in just one second,
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So that's kind of what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We like we were able to experience a lot like
growing up, and then when it came into high school,
it's like when everything kind of just I don't know.
That's when I actually started working for my like working
for like myself, like I need I need money. My
mom asked me for gas money, and I'm like, damn,
like this is the time I need to just like
focus up. And I was like sixteen at the time.
Parents were just fighting divorcing. They officially divorced, ended up
(03:23):
moving out like to my grandma's garage, just feeding for myself.
Since I was like kind of like sixteen, I was
thankful enough to like my parents actually buy me, Like
it was like a thirty five hundred dollars card, like
a Prius, like two thousand and two Prius, and.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That was like my pribadely enjoy. You know. I would
look at my.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Friends and like, damn, my friends have camaros and like whatever.
Because I don't know if you're familiar with Alimani, but
like I had a lot of friends from Alimenyi and
private school, so like, you know, I would always hang
out with them on the off days, and they always
had like nice cars.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They're like some of their kids, the kids that go
to that school pull up in like porsches and stuff
like that. You know. So I'm like, damn, like why
don't I have this? Why don't have this?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And like I don't know, I take it as a
blessing because I didn't want any handouts and I didn't
get any handouts, so it was actually really good.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
My dad had to do what he had to do
to survive. My mom did what she didn't to survive,
and then we all kind of had to feed for
like ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
So that's what kind of like I feel.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like molded me to like start doing things on my
own and be, yeah, a man basically.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like at sixteen.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I moved out completely at eighteen with like from my
family and everything. Just my friend was actually able to
bring me in with him. I stayed in one of
his uh one of his rooms at his house, which
I'm thankful for that when I used to work at
like La Fitness and stuff. But yeah, I've just always
feel like I feed for myself and I'm still like
(04:44):
I'm still not where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But you've always been like fight or flight, yeah, like
surviving basically, yeah, like living your life. I feel that
because my parents also got divorced when I was like five.
My dad also got locked up. He was away in jail,
so it's like I never really had that father figure either.
So it's like that image of like, Okay, how is
a man supposed to be? How am I supposed to
(05:08):
grow up or how like? And I've seen it in
my brothers too, because they don't have their dad in
their life. So it's I see it it, Yeah, Like
you see how important is that a father figure is
a part of your life and what it does to
a man obviously, like now that you're older, like have
you seen how it affected you back then and now
to this?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, I've always like I've always thought like back then
like them, you know, what was it like to actually
have someone that like taught me certain things? You know,
like even the sex talk was like with my mom,
like just make sure like use condoms.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like stuff like that, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And I even like I didn't even know what a
barber was until after high school. So even like looking
back in like my high school pictures, I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Like, why how did I get these ugly haircuts? Like damn?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But I just see that and I'm like, I know
what I want as a man, as a father and
as a husband, you know, to be like for my
future wife or whatever the case is. Like I feel
like I've learned a lot, and like I don't know
when that time comes, Like I know I'm going to
be a great husband, a great father, you know, Like
that's what I want because I don't want my kids.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
To go through I kind of like you don't want
them to miss out on what you didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, literally, so get that.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
That's dope all right. So okay, wait back to the
high school thing. What high school did you go to?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Gernada?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I went to Birmingham for like two years.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Okay, Birmingham solid, not too far apart.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Always been in the valley, always been in the actually
moved every two years in my life. Okay, Like since
I was like seven, I lived in Sherman Oaks and
then I went from Sherman Oaks to Palmdal Palm del
to Silmar, and Silmar.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
To just always Valley.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, just literally always valley. But I'm ready for like
a home home, you know. But we'll see whenever I
have kids and stuff like that. I was finally settled
down maybe yeah, whenever.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So how did it? What happened with the fools? How
did that happen? Who'd you meet? Who? Like?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, I actually met Brian first? So Brian was he
used to cut hair at the time. Okay, I actually
met him through like a mutual barber. I guess I
had a barber that knew him. They used to cut
the same the same barber shop. And then I like
he started like talking about Brian what he's doing and stuff.
And I had a sneaker star at the time.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So I had a sneakerstar on Melrose and it was
like really popping off of like TikTok.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah cookies and Kicksies. Yeah, so I had that and
it was really popping off of TikTok.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Like I had a lot of people like come, like
a lot of TikTok stars and stuff like that. And
then I got introduced to Brian, started going to Brian
for like my haircuts, and we would just kind of
talk and like I've always been like on the I've
never really wanted to have like social media like followers
or like anything like that. I just wanted to be
low key, like, you know, I'm doing my thing, but
ended up being you know, not being that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, but we.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I met him and then I like I just believed
in the journey division. I was like, Okay, I see
what you're what you're doing. I like, I believe in
you percent and he knows that, like, you know, I
believed in them like the very beginning. I think it
was like their first year into social media, and I
had a lot of connections, so anything that they needed
I was just like, Okay, let's figure it out.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Boom boom, I got you.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Don't even worry about it, Like you know, I literally
didn't charge them for nothing, you know, Like I think
the day they had their first ever pop up at
my store and I told them, I'm like, hey, let's
just have a pop up. Let's see how you engagement
really is, right, like, let's see how it go. Yeah,
cut the waters, and it fucking it went. I mean,
can I cuss story?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It went, It went crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It was really good. Everybody got lit. It was a
fun time for everybody. And that's when I knew. I
was like, damn, like you know, it's real, real motion,
like like I believe in them and whatever they needed,
you know, I was just there, like I didn't even
charging for that pop up, not that I needed to,
I wanted to. It's just like it was more so
me as a homide just like let's just see where
this goes, Like let's see if a pop up is
actually like going to do something. And even that day,
(08:52):
like I think I lost like fifteen twenty grand that day,
just because like when you have pop ups at a store,
nobody buys anything to be basically like you just do
it for like engagement, and like at the time, we
didn't need like we were pretty read like two point
something million on TikTok like as a store, so it's
like we didn't really need it. It was just more
so like me just wanting to Yeah, I'm like a
people pleaser. I like to please people. So it's like
(09:13):
I would do a lot of things for someone without
asking for anything return, you know. So it's like I've
always just helped these foods with anything. They used to have,
like an intro. I used to rent like sling shots
out like in front of my store, and then there
was they needed like an intro video, so I give
them all four steam shots like oh go rite and
whenever you want. Obviously it's going to help the business too,
but yeah, just any time I was able to help,
(09:34):
I was just like boom, and I never asked for
anything in return. And then slowly but surely they're like, hey,
let's just like you're always around us, You're helping us
a lot.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I help them with their business side. To this day,
I'm still.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Helping like with a lot of the back end stuff,
and I'm okay with that, you know. Like I want
them to succeed, be organized and and see them prosper.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I'm a part of the journey. Why not, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So yeah, that's how everything went down, and I'm still
helping to this day, which thankful for you know.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That's top though, No, because honestly, like obviously, I mean
as a valley girl, like everybody knows who these fools
are like. But then but that's what I'm saying. It
was a valley thing and then it just went crazy
like out of nowhere, which is again, I congratulations to
you guys, like again, like I fuck with y'all, Like
(10:22):
you guys are so cool, each and every one of
I don't I don't know everybody, but the ones that
I do know, like you know, it's cool, like you
guys are you guys are dope, and I can see
the genuine and the authenticity, Like you guys are just
fucking random ass like.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I don't know, you can just do anything, and it's
just like I don't know, there's some characters in these foods,
so it's like I'm not really much of a character,
I feel like, because.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, you're always like I'm just to myself.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, like you are No, they're just like they're loud
and knowing they'll just say.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Whatever they to bring that balance.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Literally, so I've been I mean, lately, I feel like
I've been coming like just trying more in the vlogs
and kind of show my personality because I don't really
like to show my personality.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know why. It's just a thing about me
that you know, I don't know, I just don't. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
There's so many people looking at you in your life.
You know, you say the one wrong thing, it's over with,
you know. So I'm overthinker, So like I can't just
be screaming dumb shit up.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
You know, we're gonna go on a quick break and
we'll be right back with more of dumb Welcome back,
you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
But now they're funny even off camera. I have an
amazing time with all of them, Like they're they're just
cool guys in general.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think everything obviously has like a reason.
Obviously I know that you know, you go to church
and your.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Face to the same church.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We go to the same church.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You guys, you see each other all the time.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No, but it's cool and I feel like, you know,
people need that people need like influencers, and like obviously
it's cool, but it's also cooler to influence people to
like guide them to something good and great and that's
also like concrete and that will not fail them. And
you know, obviously I've seen and we've been around each other,
and I've seen you at church and you also got
(12:05):
baptized there. Yeah, and which is huge because people have
this like stigma on guys, like you know, like it's
just you know, the whole motions things and like God
and whatever, and I kind of want to like hear
your perspective or like how you felt in that moment,
what made you, you know, lead that to that decision,
like because a lot of guys don't get it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I feel like it's just more so so I grew
up Catholic, Okay, so I was actually like a peer
leader for my church. So it's crazy to like kind
of like make that switch.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But in all.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Reality, it's just like a real closer relationship to God
at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So at the time, like as a Catholic, it was
more so like now that I look back at it,
because I went to a Catholic school for like my
fifth fifth grade and then just like one year I
think I think it was fifth or sixth grade something
like that. But that's when I like believe got like
my confirmation, I already I was already baptized, and then my.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Communion the order.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I did all those three in order to get married
or whatever the case was, right, that's always like the thing.
But the church was just so structured where I knew
when to scene, when to sit down, went to stand up,
Like it was just you know, and I kind of
left that in a way and just believed in like
obviously manifestation like stuff like that. And I was like, okay,
(13:23):
but for me, for me, I didn't really believe in
like a God. And then recently I just went through
a whole bunch of shit, like two years ago, a
lot of like money was just everywhere, and I just
had like not necessarily evil thoughts, but like just like yeah,
I was just like hey, like I don't think like
you know, certain things is like I'm like happening for
(13:44):
a reason, you know. And it was like a lot
of stuff going on. So I was like damn. My
friend bought me to church, which was freedom and it
was a Christian church. So I was like, Okay, I've
never been to a Christian church. Well I have, but
like not that type.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Of Christian ch know, it's not as different from a
cad Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Different.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
So I went and I just like I ended up
liking it. I loved it, and then I kept going
back and it's just like I would go by myself,
and I'm like, I'm mean using me, I likely to
go by myself. I'm just like whatever, like I don't
need validation, validation from like anybody to like, you know,
come with me or like you know, make something like that.
Like I like going by myself because it's just it's
just me and you know, the pastor and we're just
was just hearing his the sermon and I'm just there
(14:24):
like it feels good, you know. And I actually I'm
doing I don't even think like nobody knows this, but
like I'm doing the Monday boot Camp Spiritual. So the
last like two weeks I've been doing like a zoom
call with Pastor Justice and everything.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's been good.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I don't know, I've just I was I felt like
I was lost and I had just like a lot
of thoughts in my head that I wanted to it
was just a bad investment gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, and yeah, I just decided.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I was like, you know what, I don't want to
be thinking about like my bad thoughts that I was thinking,
and I'm gonna just get baptized. And I was already
going to church. And when I got baptized, it's like,
you know, you leave the olde you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And becoming the new you.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm just like, I want to keep continuing this path
that I'm on and I don't know, I just want
to be a man of God and as much as
I can, even like they're drinking and stuff, like, I've
been trying to cut it out, especially with these fees.
It's not easy. But yeah, I just I'm trying to
get closer and hopefully.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know, I don't know, No, I feel I completely
agree and I and honestly, I'm gonna I'm gonna be
I feel like it was you or somebody else. But
I think I started going because you posted it solid
and I was just like and I was like, and
I was like, you know what, it's down the street
obviously now I mean you nowhere I live or whatever,
but like it's down the street. It's easy and it's
so good good, Like every time, I'm like, I love
(15:42):
them so much. Like there, it's it's an hour and
it's they get to the point and you feel something.
You leave feeling better, and it's like, damn, like that
is that's what a church is supposed to feel like,
especially like growing up in like a Catholic church or
other churches that make you feel like like this didn't
feel good.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Even like when I would go to the Spanish churches.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yes, like I was honestly like I felt not to
be mean, but I felt like just bored there.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, and you weren't connected, Yeah, it wasn't connected guys
in like a home.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, this I feel more connected.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And I feel like obviously, like you know, the Bible
is the Bible, so regardless, like as long as we're
hearing the words in the Bible, then yeah, as.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Long as you're feeding yourself whatever, and it's just you know,
maybe I don't have you brought any of your friends there?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, I brought in No, not these foods, but I
brought in like a couple of my friends that are
close to me there. My mom as well, she was
she was raised Catholic as well, and she actually has
like a different religion that she's on, but slowly she's
actually been she's been going to shepherd a lot too.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen that one. I've for good things
about that one, but I like it, and I like,
so thank you obviously, you know, for posting it and
sharing it your journey and all that, because I just
feel like when it comes to guys talking about it,
like they get a little bit weird, and especially when
you post your boats, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's dope,
Like you know, like you don't have to do that
because you're also an influencer with a bunch of guys,
and like they perceive you as something like they see
(17:08):
you like oh like and then they think you're gonna
be like the most holiest person and like completely change.
It's like you could be, but it's like no, like
you're being realistic to who you are and being true
and like you know, obviously the drinking, Like we're not perfect.
We're not like obviously like once we make that decision
or whatever, like it's not crispy clean like right away,
(17:29):
like you're meant to fail, Like we're born sinners and
that's okay, and like we're meant to learn and obviously
that's why God has grace and we're able to learn
and whatever. Even for me, like I decided this year
I don't want to smoke as much, like smoking heavy
really yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Like yeah, I stopped smoking too, well, not completely, but
like I was socially smoking.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, that's what. And that's where I'm at right now.
I'm like, Okay, I'm not gonna buy it anymore. I'm
not gonna like, you know, I don't want to. I
did it because I was anxious a lot, Like I
had a lot of anxiety. I'm like, no, like I can't.
I can't. My body can't be dependent on this, like
I need to like change the shift, Like what am
I going to do?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Then?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know, I started going to read the Bible more
or like listening to worship or something else that like
leads me to do something better other than that, you know,
so I get it where it's like it's not the
easiest thing, but it's like it's better. I don't know.
I think when you go through it, you understand it more.
Like yeah, so it's like I don't know. But anyways,
(18:27):
you guys, if you guys. Yeah, if you guys want
to go to a church, freedom church is where it's at,
but you know it is it's also our home, like
that's a home space, like it's our little at least
for me.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Like no, for me too, Like I had a problem
with someone else going on. I was like, bro, this
is my home, Like why, like you know, I was like, no, no,
I just want to be here.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, that's but exactly like if you guys go, please go,
like you know, but also like respecting each other's space
as well, like obviously like I'm cool, I'm cool with
saying hi to people. Yeah, like whatever, but and if
you were a church and you'ready saved, that's even better.
But it's like you know, like you know, it's just
it's a Sunday, like we don't want to you know,
at least for me. I'm just like, let me have
(19:13):
my little Sunday. Okay. So obviously you mentioned that you
had your business, Yes, Cookies and Kicks, but you also
have solar panel. Yea calla Maxon Paxon? Is that because
of the street Packson?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
No, my partner's dog is named Paxson, so like he
actually names his dog after it was a five point
zero supercharger, so Pa and then his dog. And then
when we're thinking of a name to name the business,
we're just like, we love Woolf Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, yeah, the movie, right.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
And I think it was like a lion like the
image had it was and it was Stratton. Yeah, I
was like straightened something. And we're like, what's the cool
name that we do, and then we just like, okay,
we'll just do Paxson for now.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And it was just stuck.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
And it just stuck. And then we used to have
a logo like a silhouette of like, yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, I want to know more about it, how you
got into it because it's random solar padel of business.
I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean it's dope.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, I mean in our society, I feel like a
lot of people believe in like the sexy business. Right,
you got to have a like clothing brand or you
got to have I don't know, something just cool that
people like look up to and like that's not really
I don't know a lot of people are doing it
and it's like you gotta be careful with that. But
this I got in because of my partners. Literally there
(20:34):
my best friend, which is like I've been friends with
for like fourteen fifteen years maybe more. He wanted to
start it because his little brother was actually in it.
So shout out Alex and Daniel. His little brother was
already selling solar and while he was in the military,
right and then he would call him and be like, hey,
like I made this much money off of one deal,
you know, like it actually, like it's good because it
helps people save money, you make money, and like everybody wins,
(20:57):
you know. So then I started looking into it and
was like, okay, like you know, I think we can
do this like on our own. We don't need a
middleman basically to like take ourselves and get a commission off.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
We could do it ourselves.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Then we all started just like learning scripts, learning how to.
We kind of just took the model that they were
learned or that they had learned and brought it to
Pacson and just started teaching other people how to do it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
We used to meet as Starbucks.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's kind of where like our meetings were, and then
from there we went to my friends living room. From
our friends living room, we had an office and then
another office after then now we're at like our third office,
which is like it's nice, Like I don't just see
where it's you're.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Doing like seminars and stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Right, yeah, now we're doing seminars. So we're doing seminars
to kind of recruit. I'm using the following that I'm
getting now to help the business. We're actually one of
the I look at a lot of solar companies and
see like their views like engagement and stuff like that.
We're one of the biggest ones that have the most engagement.
Like I'm using it as a tool.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
To just go to manage.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So the business.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
The business is like it'll start five years ago, but
the goal was always.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
To sell it.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So that's like what we're doing right now. It's we're
just keeping everything organized. And it's cool that like my
business partners are also in the military because we landed
like pretty big contracts right now with the government, and
if you're in the military and you're a veteran, you
actually get like a certain percentage more so, like like
of the deals in like in California and stuff. So
(22:26):
that's going to be happening this year. So I feel
like a lot of it came from in like the
engagement and like seeing our logo everywhere, which which is
what I want. I want our logo just everywhere. Like
my one of my putners about a raptor an hour
and a half away, he's like, hey, I've seen that
logo before, Like where's it from.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's like a solar companies, Like oh damn Packs Energy
and like that, like that's fire. You know, that's cool,
Like that's what that's what it's all about. You know,
people are going to see the logo.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They're gonna we're gonna start selling stuff like that, like
you know, and we're very like keen Onto.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Like just like our culture here.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So it's like we won't just hire anybody. We have
to have people that like have their head on the
shoulders want to make money. Like we have core values
in our company, where like we have a sign that
like literally lists all of our core values and we
try to live by those all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So it's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You have a good ass head on your shoulders, yeah, honestly,
Like and I think, I mean I'm gonna I feel
like I could speak into it because I mean I
don't know. I'm sure you know some of my life,
but not all of it. It's where it's like, it's
where where you're living to you're surviving. So it's like
your next what are the next moves? Like you're and
(23:37):
you're placed in the space where it's like you're forced
to mature more like mentally and like in your life
as well, and you have no other choice. So it's like,
you're twenty eight, twenty eight. Are you turned twenty nine
this year? I am Huh, I'm twenty twenty eight this year,
So I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Are you turning twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, But like I feel like I have the mind
of like a thirty five year old. Yeah, I too,
like and I feel like because of our life circumstances
and everything that you know that I've personally been through,
like I've had no other choice.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I had to make sure quick exactly like.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You know, And I feel like certain people can tap
into that. And I'm sure that you know, you've you've
grown and you have also been in situations that weren't
ideal and oh.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I made a lot of mistakes
in my life. But it's not about how you like,
you know, take it. It's just how you bounce back
from it. Yeah, I made a lot of mistakes in
my life, and do I regret it. No, it was
a lesson, Yeah, but you just got to learn from
the lessons. You know, you can only learn from your failures.
So I took it as a as a big jump.
I did a lot of things in my life where
(24:40):
a lot of people at my age weren't doing.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's for sure. And I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I don't take that back, you know, at least try.
I haven't worked at like actual job since twenty seventeen, twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Maybe it's not for you. I'm saying, that's not your businessman,
like you have the tri business man. Okay, we're going
to go on a quick break and we'll be right
back with more of dumb Welcome back you guys, packs
and sells. What are we doing next? What do we
feel like?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm going into real estate heavily, heavily. Yeah, that's one
thing I've always wanted. I read books on like wholesaling
and all this stuff. So it's like, yeah, section eight properties,
like Josh, Josh probably Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Here's a friend I know, Josh, but yeah, yeah, that'd
be cool though, And I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Mean, you could do it, but we can do it
again too.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So the goal is if we do sell, would probably
open up another solar because we have maybe like about
fifteen years to we run up solar till it becomes
like everywhere, and every year more and more people just
want solar like it just it's making more sense for people.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Back then, I get it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It used to be like a scam and a lot
of businesses like went down because they would install on
people take the money and just like they went out
of business, which we literally like, it's hard, it's hard,
like you know, but yeah, everything is electric. People are
getting electric cars and then they charge at home and
forget that their bill is going to go up and
you know the only way to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So okay, So as a businessman, head of a businessman
mindset over here, what are your three or let's say
two things you could tell somebody that like are looking
into opening a business or guiding them.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Consistency for sure, number one. That's like the main thing.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
I feel like, if you're not consistent, it's not going
to really go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, and always.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Always be learning. You always got to just keep learning.
You don't know enough, like you just don't. If you're
not learning, you're not doing yourself any favorites right there.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
For sure. You always got to either.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Read, find something interesting and just learn from it. There's
news every single day that stuff is happening around the world,
and if you're not caught up, then you're gonna get
left behind.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You guys heard it here. I mean he's been managing
businesses his whole life, basically. Literally all right, So I'm
asking for the girls dom, What is your love life
like my love life.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And go right now, just enjoying, enjoying life. Whether someone
comes into my life and I want to take it
seriously cool, if it happens, I probably will take it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Seriously, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
What are you looking for to take it serious?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
What?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What does a girl have to have or to be
to be serious to take it serious?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know. She's just.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
She.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I don't want like a like someone that's just always
outside doing stuff. She needs to go to church, doesn't
matter if you're Catholic Christian, just like have. She just
needs to have a good head on their shoulders, you know. Literally,
that's all I already asked.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
For, you know, simple man. Yeah, Well, let me think.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
And she got to understand my lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Too, honestly, because it's complicated.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It is.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
But I feel like in every relationship it's just about communication,
like at the end of the day, like that's one thing.
Like I used to be hard on it. It's just
like I would never really open up. It's like who
I was like talking to. But now it's like if
I going to work things out, just like yeah, yeah,
you know, like update, update her, like you know, update
each other. Just make sure like there's no gray areas
(28:13):
if something's wrong, like what's wrong, let's fix it. Let's
not like dwell on it the next day, two days,
three days, whatever, you know, and then just let it
sweep it another sure about it, but yeah, just talk
about it, like you know, I'm at that age where
it's like we got to be just mature with things.
If things aren't going to work out, like let me know, now,
let's rip the band, new job and focus on you know,
like finding somebody else, because you know, I'm not trying
(28:33):
to waste time anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
We're dating to marry, Yeah, dating to marry.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because the time is sticking. I feel it because it's
like I get it because it's just not. Yeah, we
don't want to waste our time anymore. It's like we're
way too grow. We have too much on our plate,
responsible mature over here, Like I.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Don't want to be dealing with a girl that's like
outside where you at stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like no, dude, no time.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You still want to be going out on private jets
and doing all these things like oh, that's not the
good for me.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I mean, there you guys go. I mean you guys
know where to find him. Okay, So speaking of social
media and everything, like obviously you mentioned about understanding your
lifestyle and whatever and completely get in respect it. Do
you feel what do you feel is like the misconception
about you that people like, hm, like domb is this
(29:25):
or people what is one thing that we're like, oh dumb,
I thought you would be like this, or like I
don't know, they probably got wrong about you.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I feel like I I portray myself pretty well, like
how I how I really am on Instagram? Yeah, or
like social media, I don't really try to hide anything,
or like like I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, let me tell you. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Why you heard some stuff about me.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I've heard stuff about everybody, but I'm not you know,
I don't. I like to get to know the person,
not based off that. But that's side note. But first impression,
I I thought you were mean.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I thought you oh you know what? Okay, I get
that a lot, but I have like a like a
god of them here, just.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Like you have your unrest.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
But yeah, literally I just be like, yeah, I almost
got into fights because of it.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Really, like literally like what are you looking at? Like
bro the soun's eyes, Like what do you want me
to do?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know? But now I get that a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Actually, you're right, You're right. I actually get that a lot.
Everybody thinks I'm an asshole or like yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You're really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
No, you're really really nice, like you're dope like I said,
like you're dope in like you're kind. But yeah, that's
what I'm saying. Like when you first like meet.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
People, Yeah, especially guys, guys really think like I'm an asshole.
Like I don't know, not to be like rude or anything,
but like if they're like with their girl whatever, and
I'm like, yeah, I'm just like I'm just a happy
person too.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
It's like like hey, how are you? Like? How nice
to meet you as well?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know, like girl, it's like, bro like, I'm not like,
I'm not even like that, Like I like even if
like a girl would hit me up and she has
a boyfriend and I see it, like, I'm like, but
what are you doing? You know, like, it's just weird.
It's weird energy. I just don't I believe in karma.
So it's like if I do that to a girl
and they have a boy or a guy that has
a girlfriend, it's kind of fucked up, right, I wouldn't
want that to meet.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You, wouldn't want to be on you either. All right,
well let's look back. We're looking back on our whole lives.
Your whole life dumb, right, Obviously it's a lot, even
through a lot, but you've also succeeded on a lot
of things, and I'm sure God has been a foundation
in that. What is something that you could say that
(31:33):
overall your life you've just learned and that you could
just share and maybe give hope to other people.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Bouncing back is real, It is real. It's one hundred
percent real. I've been at the lowest of the lowest,
and even back then, I knew that. I'm just I'm
gonna get I'm gonna get through this. I'm going to
get through this even when I like, I shouldn't feel
that way, because, like I'm telling you, if I had
(31:59):
some like some stories to tell you where like I've
seen like the irs take every dollar from my account,
like my business accounts, everything just because I didn't pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
It was just like a big big deal that time,
and we had lost like I think it was like
one hundred and something thousand, and it was just like
I had zero money, zero, zero money, and then I
didn't know what to do. I am glad I have
like my partnery for Solar because I just like everything
was just not going. I forgot what else was it,
But like something happened here, and then the money here,
(32:34):
and then another thing happened here, and it all happened
at the same time, and I was like, bro, like
how am I going to do this? Like how am
I gonna come back from this? And I just believed
in I have the right people around me too, but
I just believed in I will bounce back, and I
did bounce back.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Bounce back is freaking real. You just got to believe in.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yourself to be honest, that's really all it is. I'm
not where I want to be, but I know that
regardless someone you get there.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, maybe even when you get there too, Like you're
just like, is not what your ideal your plan with
at the end of the day, and maybe better than
what you have or whatether you're dreaming though you know,
we don't know, We don't know the plans God, But honestly,
thank you so much. I really appreciate like diving in
and getting to know you, and I think that it's
(33:17):
important because obviously vulnerability is not easy, but it's also
powerful and like to share, and I'm happy and I
have the pleasure in the honor, you know, because honestly, again,
like you're really really cool, Like I could see your
authenticity and you're a genuine guy. And I ultimately just
wish you the best and everything anding that you do
(33:38):
and succeed. And I know that God's not going to
fail you and your family and you know, whatever the
case may be, and I just pray that everything goes well.
Please share your socials so that everybody can find you.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
YEAHMB cop on everything dumb Underscore copp On literally everything, Instagram, Snapchat,
TikTok made it easy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Dumb cop I like it. Well, thank you so much.
I appreciate you so so much. Again, God bless you
and everything that you.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Thank you guys so much for watching and listening to
This episode makes you guys like common. Subscribe, leave a review,
and I will see you guys next Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
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