March 30, 2021 • 30 mins
Tyrese Maxey and Anthony Edwards are forced to prepare for an unknown future when the 2020 NCAA basketball season gets canceled and the 2020 NBA Draft gets moved due to COVID. Instead of pre-draft workouts for teams, Tyrese and Anthony take part in a televised Klutch Sports Pro Day on ESPN to showcase their skills; but, the performance creates controversy for Klutch Founder and CEO Rich Paul, and raises new questions about Anthony Edwards’s draft position. Narrated by Keegan-Michael Key.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Drafted is a production of tree Ford Media, Clutch Sports Group,
and I Heart Radio. No other draft class has been
through this. No other draft class was a craft shoot
like this draft class because they didn't get to say them,
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they didn't get to have their normal workouts, they didn't
see him in the n s A tournament. They didn't
see guys play their best when it really matters. So
this was one of those let's take a guess draft.
Welcome back to Drafted. I'm kicking Michael Key and that's
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University of Kentucky head coach John Kella PARTI talking about
the end of double A season and the thick cloud
of uncertainty hanging over everything sports and otherwise. When the
years screeched to an abrupt stop with covid H, when
this thing ended, some of the guys, I think some
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of them were just stunned, like stunned, like what in
the world. We had a couple of guys cry. I
don't know if he was one of them. I do
know when we arrived back on campus, they played five
on five, just the last time to be together. That's
how Tyrese's dream of playing at the University of Kentucky
ended and In this fourth episode, we'll hear about the
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unprecedented months that followed the stretch that Tyrese and Anthony
Edwards faced between the end of their college seasons and
the start of their NBA careers. This period presented extremely
different challenges and many unknowns instead of the physical and
mental strain they're accustomed to facing on the court. It's
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crazy because people ask us how different it is, but
this is all we know. This is all I know,
Like this is the only time being in the draft process,
so I don't know what it was like if if
you know, it was in person that we was flying
around everywhere, so the zoom is all we know. It
was kind of crazy. We knew the COVID COVID nine
team was rising, and uh, people started saying that we
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weren't gonna play with fans, and it kind of just stopped,
like abruptly. It was weird, like, you know, we're expected
to play. We get to Nashville. Nashville was hosting the
Southeastern Conference tournament starting on March eleventh, and Tyrese's Kentucky
team was scheduled to play after a buy Okay, okay,
we're not allowed to have fans all right, cool. Then
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the NBA cancels that same day. So now we're like waiting, like, okay,
if they're not gonna if the NBA, the professionals, the
one the people who get played to play the game, like,
if they're not gonna play, there's no way that we
can play. It was sad. I mean it was sad
to know that you put in all the work, all
the days in the summer, all the two days of
all the extra shots you're putting in just like you
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can make a run at the tournament, and now no run.
On March eleventh, the two first round games in the
SEC tournament were played without fans. The next day, the
entire season was canceled, including March Madness. All the recent
effort feels squandered. Tyrese had the drawing of himself wearing
a Kentucky jersey hanging on his wall since middle school,
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something he had been working towards for six years, was
stolen the day it was supposed to begin. This suck
that I couldn't finish it out and see what we
could do as a team and as an individual in
the tournament. You know, there's always special moments in March,
but I had to understand I had to adapt to
the situation that was going on. You know, the we
end up start wearing mask and quarantine it for a
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long time and social distance, and so I think emotionally
I kind of had to grow and we had to
move on from it. Terrese's uncle Brandon describes the shock.
It's very disappointed, man, because I knew they were peeking
right then. They had just went on the road. I
think they would just beat Florida, and they were just jelling.
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You know, you just imagine being your your first year
in college, you're going to your dream school, that the
tournament is what you play for, your conference tournament, in
a big tournament, just the chance to compete with your guys.
And it was like everybody was on the edge of
the seat just waiting for him because he knew they
were gonna make a run in the tournament, and those
moments he lived for, big stage, bright lights, tournament time,
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It's time to go get it. So we were like
everybody didn't get to see the magic man. But he
was just like, oh man, all right, let's get ready
for this. Let's get ready for it. Was like a
split second, It's like, hey, I wanted to play, but
it was like, alright, cool, let's go, let's get ready
for his draft. Getting ready for the draft under these
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circumstances comes with new issues and unknowns. How do you
prepare physically when every gym in training facility closes down
and the country goes into lockdown and quarantine, and without
a highly publicized tournament, how do you show off your
improvement from college and your ability to perform on the
biggest stage. So right after the season, coach Kyle let
us go home. He wants us to go home and
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be with our family. So I think it was a
Tuesday maybe when we went up to Nashville, came back
the next day on a Wednesday, and on Thursday, I
drove home to Texas with my family. So it was
it was that type of a quick turnaround. I was
therefore in Texas until so from March to May. From
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March to May, that's where I quarantined that for the
most part. And then in May I came out to
l A. And it's still basically quarantine, but just going
to the gym working out here. So Tyrese comes to
l A and starts as aforementioned three day's workout regiment
preparing for an uncertain draft that ultimately ends up moving
from June to October to November for almost eight months.
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Tyrese and Anthony can't compete in a real game of
basketball due to the risk of injury and coronavirus. As
they aren't sure when the draft will take place, they
can only train in hopes of hitting a constantly moving target.
Here's Anthony's trainer, Justin Holland. Once the season was canceled,
especially as abruptly as it was, I think it was
just kind of like the rest of the world, what
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is this COVID nineteen that everybody's talking about and Rudy
Gobert has it, Is Rudy gonna die? Like I think
it was. I don't even I think initially nobody was
really thinking about basketball at that point. It was just like,
what what's happening? And then once you kind of digesting
you and you understanding more about what's going on, it's like, man,
I didn't get to finish my my college season. You know,
we had plans to make a run for an n
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SEC tournament and you know, getting to the n c
Double A tournament and hopefully had one of those legendary runs,
and that was that was one of those opportunities that
was just kind of stolen from him. Justin and Anthony
regrouped once the season was officially called off and tried
to make a plan to get Anthony ready for the
draft well doing the pandemic. What what you find out
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real fast is the plan is there is no plan.
The plan is what you can do right now because
you never know what may happen tomorrow. So it was
kind of like a new landscape for me because you know,
I kind of have, like I said, my own plan
in my mind as to what I want to do
with Anthony. But now instead of the process being three months,
it's it's been stretched out for eight months. Instead of
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we can't get in the gym seven days anymore, we
can't get in the gym five days. We have to
structure everything we're doing to scale it down too. At
that point, we really didn't know. It's like it might
be five months. You know, you don't wann't You don't
want to wear them down by doing too much too early,
but you don't want to do not enough, and he's
not ready just in case the draft is next month.
So that was just a really frustrating process. But I
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think for everybody without a clear timetable, training for the
start of the season becomes nearly impossible. Normally, the league
hosts a pre draft combine similar to the one held
by the NFL, where players participate in drills and interviews
and go through physical exams and other testing. But that
event also moves and then gets canceled and then turns
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into a virtual event. They no longer have the typical
outlets to show off all the additional months of training.
So if you're Tyres Maxie or Anthony Edwards in the year,
how do you show NBA teams that they should pick you.
We'll be right back. So we had been planning on
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having a pro day. Obviously, given COVID, things are going
to be different. This is Clutched Sports head of Basketball
Omar Wilkes describing their plans to host a private workout
with their clients. For NBA executives. Clutch Sports creates their
own version of a bat fotball combine. You know, how
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can we get creative there, you know, through this pandemic
and could we stream it and send it to each
individual team. But eventually it was Okay that certain team
personnel could come to Pro Day, but not everyone could come,
or there's limited numbers, and so we're like, all right,
after we're toying with the streaming idea, Rich thinking outside
the box, was like, forget to streaming it. Why don't
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we see if we can get it televised, Like why
don't we try to put on ESPN. He's talking about
Rich Paul CEO and founder of Clutch Sports, And if
I'm being completely honest, I was like, it's a great idea,
but I don't can we can it be pulled off?
Especially given the time frame, like we were up against it.
It wasn't like we had months and months or even
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multiple weeks in advance. But we figured it's a unique
way to highlight our guys that have missed out on
such traditional opportunities of playing in March Madness and building
a fan base going to the Draft combine, And so
we felt like, how can we separate ourselves and give
our guys a platform to have like twenty two minutes
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on a nationally broadcasted channel to just kind of introduce
them to the world. Despite the fact the NBA Combine
has been televised in the past, Clutch holding their own
private televised workout for only their clients is a novel move.
The plan evolves into a broadcast on ESPN two with
a small in person crowd. They set the date for
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October eight p m. Eastern, otherwise known as Primetime. Here's
which Paul It was like, Oh, okay, we're gonna put
this pro day on. Great, It's on ESPN. Okay, cool, perfect, Okay.
Anthony was in Atlanta. It's simple when I need to
be there, coming a week early because we're gonna practice
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at the facility a couple of days before, and he
has some things to get done. Great, And Tyrese was
the same way, and mom and dad were great. There
wasn't a ton of questions for concerns. The pro day
takes place at the Sports Academy in Los Angeles, California.
Tyrese and Anthony arrived with masks on, and Clutch brings
in reporters to ask questions. We've seen so many great
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Kentucky guards find success in the NBA, Tyler Hero, Jamal Murray,
Devin Booker, even bigs like damn out of bio, Why
are you next? I feel like because I can seconly
on to play a role. We go to the wing games,
you go to the sacrifice coach Kanto that wants sacrifice
player role. And I think I have a lot more
into my game, and I shoot on to bounce, play
picking role, score for myself and with all my head
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and play when I'm off the cage, off the ball. Tyres,
every time we see you playing, you're smiling, You're you're
feeling to joy. So have fun tonight and in best
of luck. Coming up next, we're gonna see Tyrese Maxie,
potential lottery pick, start his pro day working. Lebron James,
Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Trey Young, and other NBA stars
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show up in masks as well socially distancing among team
executives in the crowd. As the two young prospects take
the court and warm up, TV announcer j Billis sets
the stage for what everyone is thinking. It's gonna be
great just to see amount of basketball court for the
first time since March. I know they've been working out,
but they've been working out out a few Tyrese begins
to show off some dribbling and driving and then shooting. Guys, Yeah, yeah, awesome.
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Three nice. The confidence is certainly there. You know you
mentioned his production against top teams. This is the reporter
commenting on the elephant in the room, or Jim in
this case, his shooting. To me, he's always been a
big time shot maker who's not afraid of the lights.
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It's just about not shooting a flatball and being more consistent.
Come on, come on, Tyrese's shots fall one after another.
Base working on some three pointers, running baseline to baseline.
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You can see he is making these shots, and he's
really worked on his shooting mechanics, and I think they're
going to get even better. This clear improvement is a
great sign for tyres and all the teams that are
interested in drafting him. But the truth is playing one
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on zero can only tell scouts a limited amount about
how someone will perform in games. There's an infamous NBA
story about a two thousand and seven Milwaukee Bucks prospect
putting on a commanding performance against a folding chair. The
player ended up being pitched six overall, but had a
disappointing career. The dominating offensive performance against the chair didn't
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quite translate to scoring against the likes of Kevin Garnett
and Dwight Howard. So in many ways, the performance shows
more about Tyrese's work, ethic and commitment to improve than
anything else. Back in, Eddie Edwards antires Maxie pro Day,
getting ready to watch Edwards go. Now Matica is finished up,
Anthony takes the court and begins his workout. Knock down,
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knock down, what come? Anthony misses a shot, and then another,
and then the next four jump shots in a row
that don't fall. You know. Anthony finishes his workout with
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a couple of monstrous dunks. Then he answers a few
quick questions. Do you feel like you showed that you
should be the number one prospect in this class? I
feel like if you had anybody else out here, they
would have been you know how to prayer for the
whole time, starstruck with all these guys on the sideline,
and I feel like I'm just ready just because I've
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been grinding eight months. I hadn't claimed about to draft me.
It puts back I just like it with better way.
You weren't phased. You had like I started Lebron out
of the seat one of the days of all time.
So trust of workout appreciate your time and thank you
so much for answering. The day seems like a success
to the Clutch Sports team, but the response from other agents,
the media, and the internet trends in the opposite direction.
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Anthony's form as shots in a row become a huge
talking point. Some claim he's not even in shape anymore.
Anonymous agents denounced the televised pro day on social media
and in stories by The New York Post, The Athletic
Bleacher Report and elsewhere, calling it unfair for Clutches clients,
insulting Rich Paul, and demanding the NBA stopped the practice.
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Their agent, Omar Wilkes shares his thoughts on the situation.
I'm told our competitors didn't love it, but that means
you kind of doing something right, you know, if we're
being honest, and I'm trying not to be super sensitive,
a lot of people are like, oh, you know, Anthony
might have heard his draft stock. You know, people people
like to do that because it's you take shots at us.
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I don't want to to delve into that, but I'm
really proud of what we're able to do in the
innovative way. We're able to make something work in a
pandemic and highlight our guys. So I'm happy with how
everything turned out. Anthony has interviewed about the fallout on
the ESPN is the Jump and here's Tyrese watching his
friend during the interview New and Tires Max. They took
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part in that made for TV Pro Day And just
like always, everyone has an opinion, right and there are
some criticism. What do you have to say to the
people who did not like what y'all did? I really
have nothing to say to him. I just hope they
stay blessed and you know, find a way to get
better every day like I do. I don't really care
about the critics of the pro Day, having experience like
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for you exclude Tyrese can laugh it off because his
pro Day was viewed positively for the most part. Some
sources even indicate his improved shooting could move him into
the top ten picks. Enrich Paul shares his client sentiments
as far as like the criticism from a pro Day
perspective just a bunch of wining to me, I really
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didn't pay attention to that. Again, that was just an
idea that came from me just trying to think of
better way to position these guys as they're going to
the draft, and had nothing to do with me trying
to show how smart I am or clutch trying to
show how smart we were. We were literally just trying
to do what we felt was best for clients and
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it worked because content was low. ESPN thought it was
a good idea. We had the talking points, we had
the storylines. Ah, and we're gonna do it again. How
could you criticize as was there to criticize. You're taking
two kids who didn't finish your college season, who don't
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have the ability to go to an NBA combine as
it normally is. Position, Putting these guys on ESPN for
an hour showcasing something that they may have and doing
for the last five or six months and technically all
of their basketball lives. There's no negative to that. Now.
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Could you say there's a negative risk of injury? Yeah,
but you can you can have injury just playing pick
up or just working out or just getting out the
shower if you want to be that technical. Could you say, well,
Anthony Edwards is the number one pick projected, and why
put them on TV and he missed four shots in
the row. Well, he has to play on TV in
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his profession or do you think they play the games
at Yeah, so he's gonna miss a lot. So you
might as well start preparing yourself. Now. You know what,
if people want to find something to criticize, they'll find it.
Whether you choose to pay attention to it or not
up to the individual. I just so happened to be
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one of those individuals that really don't give a ship.
We'll be right back. The media reaction and fallout isn't
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a once in a career isolated event. Rich Paul has
been involved in other high profile controversies in the past,
and in the n C double A implemented a list
of qualifications that sports agents were required to have to
sign players, including a bachelor's degree, something immediately deemed the
Rich Paul rule since many of the requirements appeared to
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be aimed directly at him. Let's go at all. Rich
gets on the phone with Calvin Andrews, a C and
your agent at Clutch to discuss the difficulties of their business.
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I just think that the more the more these kids
are educated and their families are educated. I just think
the better the better the business is because either way
we're dealing with a situation where, you know, a lot
of times you see things going to the media. You
don't know what to believe. This perception in the media,
like what happened after the pro day versus the realities
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of the NBA, is a recurring issue they face as agents.
We've been in situations where somebody call you and say, well,
what do you think about this? What? That's not an offer,
you know, and so that goes to the media, and
then these young men and people around, Oh, we got offered.
No you didn't, that's not an offer. The money's dried up.
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There's definitely not seventy million dollars out there for you,
and I'm not sure if that was even real or not.
You know, somebody can say what you think about a
hundred million dollars and only ten million of it is guaranteed,
So what are you talking about? You have to look
at the value of everything, your contract and my brand equity,
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how I'm perceived. There's a value in perception. You know.
We went through the same thing with k C. P.
That's shooting guard Cantabious Caldwell Pope, another former University of
Georgia Starr who resigned with the Lakers this offseason for
forty million dollars. Oh well, we already got offered eight
where's the offer? I never received that. I never received that.
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But you know, you got these agents, they put stuff
out whatever. I don't really care. But if you look
at what he did, he stayed in, told did what
he had to do. Now he's exceeded that and he's
a champion. But you got to grind it out and
you do the work. He'd done the work k C
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P did the work. Cap had been playing on one
two year deals since his rookie contract. This three year,
forty billion dollars signing was his first longer term, higher
paying contract. You bring up a good plane, and that's
what I you know, I see it, and you see it.
The kids said, don't shortcuts, right. They don't want to grind,
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you know, they don't want to work. They want what
they think should happen right now. And it's only a
few guys that that that's in that sort of situations, right,
You've got to grind it out, follow the plan, and
be patient, yes, said every level, at every level, every level.
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And that's that's what gets frustrating. For what you and
I do day day when they don't play attention, they
don't follow the plan. They think they got to answer,
so they brother got to answer. They don't for got
to answer, and they want to they want it now.
They don't work out. But here's the thing. Through my experience,
we work with all families. When when everyone is on
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the same page and and everyone is willing to be educated,
it works like a marriage. It's fantastic. I've experienced it
time and time and time again with brothers, with mothers,
with fathers. I've experienced it. But I can honestly say
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it works better when it starts from day one, not
day one thousand, you know. Because yeah, because because we
also have the perception that we can turn water into wine.
We put a program together where you buy in, you
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get paid, you buy in, you benefit. That's the business
we're in. We're in the buy in benefit business. Because
again Tyrese Max is a prime example. He's gonna be
a good pro for a long time because you don't
have to tell him anything, tell him in time. He's
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doing it. Kid was here for five months, worked out
twice a day, six in the morning, never late, never missed.
That's that's that's almost impossible. Seriously, he bought in and
I told every team that we told teams about Tannon
Horton Tucker last year. GM called me and said, you
know what, rich He said, the one thing we're noticing
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around the league with your guys, they get better and
we see it. And I thought that was a huge,
huge compliment in the program because you cannot be afraid
to advise these guys problems. You just can't. There is
no playbook for shepherding your clients through a pandemic on
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their way to the NBA. So despite the criticism, rich
Omar and the Clutch team are confident their pro day
was the right move for Anthony and Tyrese. So others
aren't quite as certain. I think you're damned if you do,
you damned if you don't. Personally, being an ant case,
this is another member of Anthony's inner circle, coach Rob Allen.
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He could go out there and hit all his shots,
then somebody might say, hey, maybe he was just on
the day, you know, or he could go miss all.
But I think a lot of people took to the
criticism because it was Clutch, or people were jealous of
what Klutch was doing to kind of backlash on the guys,
especially Aunt. You know him missing Shyes, they're saying he's
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not in shade. It was funny to me, baffling at
the same time because I know how much work that
he was working out. Like literally, we all were in
the same gym since since COVID started, in the pandemic started,
We've been in the gym since March. So for people
to say he wasn't in shaving things, I know that
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not to be true, trust me. Um. So it was
just a lot of criticism, but technically I think it
was a good thing. Um, if we all saw the
Last Dance, like I know he did. Uh, just just
listening to m j say, hey, you know making up
stuff in his head that you know people even if
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they didn't saying he just making things up in his
own head. In the docs series The Last Dance, Michael
Jordan reveals that he repeatedly makes up slights and insults
to motivate himself and gain an edge I practiced many
other players have since adopted over the years. Of course,
the criticism about Anthony and his pro day shooting performance
is very real, and Anthony can't help but hear it.
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Even for Aunt just listen to people say, oh, he's no.
One pig, he's the best player. And then as you
get closer and closer and closer you do the Pro day.
Oh he didn't look good. He looks out of shape
in his workouts. When I'm near to watching workout or
when he's talking to me, he's always got a chip
on his shoulders, you know, being in the gym or
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running up and down the court shooting saying, hey, they say,
ain't in shape. All right, I'm sure. Just just taking
that little bit, putting it in your head and and
just ramming it through. Just having some motivation. Like we
said that the grades have to have. I think you
need those things to be a great player. I just
really do. After This edge doesn't come from insults or
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imaginary slights. And although events like the Pro Day might
add to the chip on his shoulder, that need to
prove himself and to take out his anger and pain
on the court comes from a very specific place. He
hasn't had the easiest run of luck with you know,
family members passing at an early age and in quick succession,
and I'm sure he has really tough moments, but he's
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always kind of used it as a positive and like
a reminder that like nothing is promised, and like he's
only used it as fuel to become more laser than
on as he says, making them proud and you know,
achieving his dreams because that was his promise to them,
that promise, those dreams and how they turned Anthony Edwards
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into the potential number one pick in the NBA all
coming up next undrafted. Basically him and my mom was
like best friend. We are best friends with my mom
even da were sitting in the church and I was
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sitting in my scene. Came walking in with the siblings.
He helped gel. He didn't, he didn't, you know, he
didn't break down. What do you think I'll give this superstar?
You can tell, Bro, you're looking on top of the here,
why not? Your mom can't say? And you know ce Coleman,
you know Steven ray Hail Drafted as a production of
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and I Heart Radio. No other draft class has been
through this. No other draft class was a craft shoot
like this draft class because they didn't get to say them,
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they didn't get to have their normal workouts, they didn't
see him in the n s A tournament. They didn't
see guys play their best when it really matters. So
this was one of those let's take a guess draft.
Welcome back to Drafted. I'm kicking Michael Key and that's
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University of Kentucky head coach John Kella PARTI talking about
the end of double A season and the thick cloud
of uncertainty hanging over everything sports and otherwise. When the
years screeched to an abrupt stop with covid H, when
this thing ended, some of the guys, I think some
(01:04):
of them were just stunned, like stunned, like what in
the world. We had a couple of guys cry. I
don't know if he was one of them. I do
know when we arrived back on campus, they played five
on five, just the last time to be together. That's
how Tyrese's dream of playing at the University of Kentucky
ended and In this fourth episode, we'll hear about the
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unprecedented months that followed the stretch that Tyrese and Anthony
Edwards faced between the end of their college seasons and
the start of their NBA careers. This period presented extremely
different challenges and many unknowns instead of the physical and
mental strain they're accustomed to facing on the court. It's
(02:00):
crazy because people ask us how different it is, but
this is all we know. This is all I know,
Like this is the only time being in the draft process,
so I don't know what it was like if if
you know, it was in person that we was flying
around everywhere, so the zoom is all we know. It
was kind of crazy. We knew the COVID COVID nine
team was rising, and uh, people started saying that we
(02:21):
weren't gonna play with fans, and it kind of just stopped,
like abruptly. It was weird, like, you know, we're expected
to play. We get to Nashville. Nashville was hosting the
Southeastern Conference tournament starting on March eleventh, and Tyrese's Kentucky
team was scheduled to play after a buy Okay, okay,
we're not allowed to have fans all right, cool. Then
(02:41):
the NBA cancels that same day. So now we're like waiting, like, okay,
if they're not gonna if the NBA, the professionals, the
one the people who get played to play the game, like,
if they're not gonna play, there's no way that we
can play. It was sad. I mean it was sad
to know that you put in all the work, all
the days in the summer, all the two days of
all the extra shots you're putting in just like you
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can make a run at the tournament, and now no run.
On March eleventh, the two first round games in the
SEC tournament were played without fans. The next day, the
entire season was canceled, including March Madness. All the recent
effort feels squandered. Tyrese had the drawing of himself wearing
a Kentucky jersey hanging on his wall since middle school,
(03:24):
something he had been working towards for six years, was
stolen the day it was supposed to begin. This suck
that I couldn't finish it out and see what we
could do as a team and as an individual in
the tournament. You know, there's always special moments in March,
but I had to understand I had to adapt to
the situation that was going on. You know, the we
end up start wearing mask and quarantine it for a
(03:46):
long time and social distance, and so I think emotionally
I kind of had to grow and we had to
move on from it. Terrese's uncle Brandon describes the shock.
It's very disappointed, man, because I knew they were peeking
right then. They had just went on the road. I
think they would just beat Florida, and they were just jelling.
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You know, you just imagine being your your first year
in college, you're going to your dream school, that the
tournament is what you play for, your conference tournament, in
a big tournament, just the chance to compete with your guys.
And it was like everybody was on the edge of
the seat just waiting for him because he knew they
were gonna make a run in the tournament, and those
moments he lived for, big stage, bright lights, tournament time,
(04:32):
It's time to go get it. So we were like
everybody didn't get to see the magic man. But he
was just like, oh man, all right, let's get ready
for this. Let's get ready for it. Was like a
split second, It's like, hey, I wanted to play, but
it was like, alright, cool, let's go, let's get ready
for his draft. Getting ready for the draft under these
(04:54):
circumstances comes with new issues and unknowns. How do you
prepare physically when every gym in training facility closes down
and the country goes into lockdown and quarantine, and without
a highly publicized tournament, how do you show off your
improvement from college and your ability to perform on the
biggest stage. So right after the season, coach Kyle let
us go home. He wants us to go home and
(05:15):
be with our family. So I think it was a
Tuesday maybe when we went up to Nashville, came back
the next day on a Wednesday, and on Thursday, I
drove home to Texas with my family. So it was
it was that type of a quick turnaround. I was
therefore in Texas until so from March to May. From
(05:35):
March to May, that's where I quarantined that for the
most part. And then in May I came out to
l A. And it's still basically quarantine, but just going
to the gym working out here. So Tyrese comes to
l A and starts as aforementioned three day's workout regiment
preparing for an uncertain draft that ultimately ends up moving
from June to October to November for almost eight months.
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Tyrese and Anthony can't compete in a real game of
basketball due to the risk of injury and coronavirus. As
they aren't sure when the draft will take place, they
can only train in hopes of hitting a constantly moving target.
Here's Anthony's trainer, Justin Holland. Once the season was canceled,
especially as abruptly as it was, I think it was
just kind of like the rest of the world, what
(06:18):
is this COVID nineteen that everybody's talking about and Rudy
Gobert has it, Is Rudy gonna die? Like I think
it was. I don't even I think initially nobody was
really thinking about basketball at that point. It was just like,
what what's happening? And then once you kind of digesting
you and you understanding more about what's going on, it's like, man,
I didn't get to finish my my college season. You know,
we had plans to make a run for an n
(06:39):
SEC tournament and you know, getting to the n c
Double A tournament and hopefully had one of those legendary runs,
and that was that was one of those opportunities that
was just kind of stolen from him. Justin and Anthony
regrouped once the season was officially called off and tried
to make a plan to get Anthony ready for the
draft well doing the pandemic. What what you find out
(07:02):
real fast is the plan is there is no plan.
The plan is what you can do right now because
you never know what may happen tomorrow. So it was
kind of like a new landscape for me because you know,
I kind of have, like I said, my own plan
in my mind as to what I want to do
with Anthony. But now instead of the process being three months,
it's it's been stretched out for eight months. Instead of
(07:23):
we can't get in the gym seven days anymore, we
can't get in the gym five days. We have to
structure everything we're doing to scale it down too. At
that point, we really didn't know. It's like it might
be five months. You know, you don't wann't You don't
want to wear them down by doing too much too early,
but you don't want to do not enough, and he's
not ready just in case the draft is next month.
So that was just a really frustrating process. But I
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think for everybody without a clear timetable, training for the
start of the season becomes nearly impossible. Normally, the league
hosts a pre draft combine similar to the one held
by the NFL, where players participate in drills and interviews
and go through physical exams and other testing. But that
event also moves and then gets canceled and then turns
(08:05):
into a virtual event. They no longer have the typical
outlets to show off all the additional months of training.
So if you're Tyres Maxie or Anthony Edwards in the year,
how do you show NBA teams that they should pick you.
We'll be right back. So we had been planning on
(08:45):
having a pro day. Obviously, given COVID, things are going
to be different. This is Clutched Sports head of Basketball
Omar Wilkes describing their plans to host a private workout
with their clients. For NBA executives. Clutch Sports creates their
own version of a bat fotball combine. You know, how
(09:06):
can we get creative there, you know, through this pandemic
and could we stream it and send it to each
individual team. But eventually it was Okay that certain team
personnel could come to Pro Day, but not everyone could come,
or there's limited numbers, and so we're like, all right,
after we're toying with the streaming idea, Rich thinking outside
the box, was like, forget to streaming it. Why don't
(09:28):
we see if we can get it televised, Like why
don't we try to put on ESPN. He's talking about
Rich Paul CEO and founder of Clutch Sports, And if
I'm being completely honest, I was like, it's a great idea,
but I don't can we can it be pulled off?
Especially given the time frame, like we were up against it.
It wasn't like we had months and months or even
(09:49):
multiple weeks in advance. But we figured it's a unique
way to highlight our guys that have missed out on
such traditional opportunities of playing in March Madness and building
a fan base going to the Draft combine, And so
we felt like, how can we separate ourselves and give
our guys a platform to have like twenty two minutes
(10:09):
on a nationally broadcasted channel to just kind of introduce
them to the world. Despite the fact the NBA Combine
has been televised in the past, Clutch holding their own
private televised workout for only their clients is a novel move.
The plan evolves into a broadcast on ESPN two with
a small in person crowd. They set the date for
(10:30):
October eight p m. Eastern, otherwise known as Primetime. Here's
which Paul It was like, Oh, okay, we're gonna put
this pro day on. Great, It's on ESPN. Okay, cool, perfect, Okay.
Anthony was in Atlanta. It's simple when I need to
be there, coming a week early because we're gonna practice
(10:51):
at the facility a couple of days before, and he
has some things to get done. Great, And Tyrese was
the same way, and mom and dad were great. There
wasn't a ton of questions for concerns. The pro day
takes place at the Sports Academy in Los Angeles, California.
Tyrese and Anthony arrived with masks on, and Clutch brings
in reporters to ask questions. We've seen so many great
(11:16):
Kentucky guards find success in the NBA, Tyler Hero, Jamal Murray,
Devin Booker, even bigs like damn out of bio, Why
are you next? I feel like because I can seconly
on to play a role. We go to the wing games,
you go to the sacrifice coach Kanto that wants sacrifice
player role. And I think I have a lot more
into my game, and I shoot on to bounce, play
picking role, score for myself and with all my head
(11:39):
and play when I'm off the cage, off the ball. Tyres,
every time we see you playing, you're smiling, You're you're
feeling to joy. So have fun tonight and in best
of luck. Coming up next, we're gonna see Tyrese Maxie,
potential lottery pick, start his pro day working. Lebron James,
Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Trey Young, and other NBA stars
(12:00):
show up in masks as well socially distancing among team
executives in the crowd. As the two young prospects take
the court and warm up, TV announcer j Billis sets
the stage for what everyone is thinking. It's gonna be
great just to see amount of basketball court for the
first time since March. I know they've been working out,
but they've been working out out a few Tyrese begins
to show off some dribbling and driving and then shooting. Guys, Yeah, yeah, awesome.
(12:44):
Three nice. The confidence is certainly there. You know you
mentioned his production against top teams. This is the reporter
commenting on the elephant in the room, or Jim in
this case, his shooting. To me, he's always been a
big time shot maker who's not afraid of the lights.
(13:04):
It's just about not shooting a flatball and being more consistent.
Come on, come on, Tyrese's shots fall one after another.
Base working on some three pointers, running baseline to baseline.
(13:36):
You can see he is making these shots, and he's
really worked on his shooting mechanics, and I think they're
going to get even better. This clear improvement is a
great sign for tyres and all the teams that are
interested in drafting him. But the truth is playing one
(13:58):
on zero can only tell scouts a limited amount about
how someone will perform in games. There's an infamous NBA
story about a two thousand and seven Milwaukee Bucks prospect
putting on a commanding performance against a folding chair. The
player ended up being pitched six overall, but had a
disappointing career. The dominating offensive performance against the chair didn't
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quite translate to scoring against the likes of Kevin Garnett
and Dwight Howard. So in many ways, the performance shows
more about Tyrese's work, ethic and commitment to improve than
anything else. Back in, Eddie Edwards antires Maxie pro Day,
getting ready to watch Edwards go. Now Matica is finished up,
Anthony takes the court and begins his workout. Knock down,
(14:47):
knock down, what come? Anthony misses a shot, and then another,
and then the next four jump shots in a row
that don't fall. You know. Anthony finishes his workout with
(15:24):
a couple of monstrous dunks. Then he answers a few
quick questions. Do you feel like you showed that you
should be the number one prospect in this class? I
feel like if you had anybody else out here, they
would have been you know how to prayer for the
whole time, starstruck with all these guys on the sideline,
and I feel like I'm just ready just because I've
(15:45):
been grinding eight months. I hadn't claimed about to draft me.
It puts back I just like it with better way.
You weren't phased. You had like I started Lebron out
of the seat one of the days of all time.
So trust of workout appreciate your time and thank you
so much for answering. The day seems like a success
to the Clutch Sports team, but the response from other agents,
the media, and the internet trends in the opposite direction.
(16:09):
Anthony's form as shots in a row become a huge
talking point. Some claim he's not even in shape anymore.
Anonymous agents denounced the televised pro day on social media
and in stories by The New York Post, The Athletic
Bleacher Report and elsewhere, calling it unfair for Clutches clients,
insulting Rich Paul, and demanding the NBA stopped the practice.
(16:31):
Their agent, Omar Wilkes shares his thoughts on the situation.
I'm told our competitors didn't love it, but that means
you kind of doing something right, you know, if we're
being honest, and I'm trying not to be super sensitive,
a lot of people are like, oh, you know, Anthony
might have heard his draft stock. You know, people people
like to do that because it's you take shots at us.
(16:53):
I don't want to to delve into that, but I'm
really proud of what we're able to do in the
innovative way. We're able to make something work in a
pandemic and highlight our guys. So I'm happy with how
everything turned out. Anthony has interviewed about the fallout on
the ESPN is the Jump and here's Tyrese watching his
friend during the interview New and Tires Max. They took
(17:14):
part in that made for TV Pro Day And just
like always, everyone has an opinion, right and there are
some criticism. What do you have to say to the
people who did not like what y'all did? I really
have nothing to say to him. I just hope they
stay blessed and you know, find a way to get
better every day like I do. I don't really care
about the critics of the pro Day, having experience like
(17:36):
for you exclude Tyrese can laugh it off because his
pro Day was viewed positively for the most part. Some
sources even indicate his improved shooting could move him into
the top ten picks. Enrich Paul shares his client sentiments
as far as like the criticism from a pro Day
perspective just a bunch of wining to me, I really
(17:59):
didn't pay attention to that. Again, that was just an
idea that came from me just trying to think of
better way to position these guys as they're going to
the draft, and had nothing to do with me trying
to show how smart I am or clutch trying to
show how smart we were. We were literally just trying
to do what we felt was best for clients and
(18:23):
it worked because content was low. ESPN thought it was
a good idea. We had the talking points, we had
the storylines. Ah, and we're gonna do it again. How
could you criticize as was there to criticize. You're taking
two kids who didn't finish your college season, who don't
(18:44):
have the ability to go to an NBA combine as
it normally is. Position, Putting these guys on ESPN for
an hour showcasing something that they may have and doing
for the last five or six months and technically all
of their basketball lives. There's no negative to that. Now.
(19:09):
Could you say there's a negative risk of injury? Yeah,
but you can you can have injury just playing pick
up or just working out or just getting out the
shower if you want to be that technical. Could you say, well,
Anthony Edwards is the number one pick projected, and why
put them on TV and he missed four shots in
the row. Well, he has to play on TV in
(19:32):
his profession or do you think they play the games
at Yeah, so he's gonna miss a lot. So you
might as well start preparing yourself. Now. You know what,
if people want to find something to criticize, they'll find it.
Whether you choose to pay attention to it or not
up to the individual. I just so happened to be
(19:53):
one of those individuals that really don't give a ship.
We'll be right back. The media reaction and fallout isn't
(20:20):
a once in a career isolated event. Rich Paul has
been involved in other high profile controversies in the past,
and in the n C double A implemented a list
of qualifications that sports agents were required to have to
sign players, including a bachelor's degree, something immediately deemed the
Rich Paul rule since many of the requirements appeared to
(20:42):
be aimed directly at him. Let's go at all. Rich
gets on the phone with Calvin Andrews, a C and
your agent at Clutch to discuss the difficulties of their business.
(21:04):
I just think that the more the more these kids
are educated and their families are educated. I just think
the better the better the business is because either way
we're dealing with a situation where, you know, a lot
of times you see things going to the media. You
don't know what to believe. This perception in the media,
like what happened after the pro day versus the realities
(21:27):
of the NBA, is a recurring issue they face as agents.
We've been in situations where somebody call you and say, well,
what do you think about this? What? That's not an offer,
you know, and so that goes to the media, and
then these young men and people around, Oh, we got offered.
No you didn't, that's not an offer. The money's dried up.
(21:49):
There's definitely not seventy million dollars out there for you,
and I'm not sure if that was even real or not.
You know, somebody can say what you think about a
hundred million dollars and only ten million of it is guaranteed,
So what are you talking about? You have to look
at the value of everything, your contract and my brand equity,
(22:10):
how I'm perceived. There's a value in perception. You know.
We went through the same thing with k C. P.
That's shooting guard Cantabious Caldwell Pope, another former University of
Georgia Starr who resigned with the Lakers this offseason for
forty million dollars. Oh well, we already got offered eight
where's the offer? I never received that. I never received that.
(22:34):
But you know, you got these agents, they put stuff
out whatever. I don't really care. But if you look
at what he did, he stayed in, told did what
he had to do. Now he's exceeded that and he's
a champion. But you got to grind it out and
you do the work. He'd done the work k C
(22:55):
P did the work. Cap had been playing on one
two year deals since his rookie contract. This three year,
forty billion dollars signing was his first longer term, higher
paying contract. You bring up a good plane, and that's
what I you know, I see it, and you see it.
The kids said, don't shortcuts, right. They don't want to grind,
(23:16):
you know, they don't want to work. They want what
they think should happen right now. And it's only a
few guys that that that's in that sort of situations, right,
You've got to grind it out, follow the plan, and
be patient, yes, said every level, at every level, every level.
(23:37):
And that's that's what gets frustrating. For what you and
I do day day when they don't play attention, they
don't follow the plan. They think they got to answer,
so they brother got to answer. They don't for got
to answer, and they want to they want it now.
They don't work out. But here's the thing. Through my experience,
we work with all families. When when everyone is on
(23:59):
the same page and and everyone is willing to be educated,
it works like a marriage. It's fantastic. I've experienced it
time and time and time again with brothers, with mothers,
with fathers. I've experienced it. But I can honestly say
(24:20):
it works better when it starts from day one, not
day one thousand, you know. Because yeah, because because we
also have the perception that we can turn water into wine.
We put a program together where you buy in, you
(24:40):
get paid, you buy in, you benefit. That's the business
we're in. We're in the buy in benefit business. Because
again Tyrese Max is a prime example. He's gonna be
a good pro for a long time because you don't
have to tell him anything, tell him in time. He's
(25:00):
doing it. Kid was here for five months, worked out
twice a day, six in the morning, never late, never missed.
That's that's that's almost impossible. Seriously, he bought in and
I told every team that we told teams about Tannon
Horton Tucker last year. GM called me and said, you
know what, rich He said, the one thing we're noticing
(25:24):
around the league with your guys, they get better and
we see it. And I thought that was a huge,
huge compliment in the program because you cannot be afraid
to advise these guys problems. You just can't. There is
no playbook for shepherding your clients through a pandemic on
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their way to the NBA. So despite the criticism, rich
Omar and the Clutch team are confident their pro day
was the right move for Anthony and Tyrese. So others
aren't quite as certain. I think you're damned if you do,
you damned if you don't. Personally, being an ant case,
this is another member of Anthony's inner circle, coach Rob Allen.
(26:08):
He could go out there and hit all his shots,
then somebody might say, hey, maybe he was just on
the day, you know, or he could go miss all.
But I think a lot of people took to the
criticism because it was Clutch, or people were jealous of
what Klutch was doing to kind of backlash on the guys,
especially Aunt. You know him missing Shyes, they're saying he's
(26:30):
not in shade. It was funny to me, baffling at
the same time because I know how much work that
he was working out. Like literally, we all were in
the same gym since since COVID started, in the pandemic started,
We've been in the gym since March. So for people
to say he wasn't in shaving things, I know that
(26:51):
not to be true, trust me. Um. So it was
just a lot of criticism, but technically I think it
was a good thing. Um, if we all saw the
Last Dance, like I know he did. Uh, just just
listening to m j say, hey, you know making up
stuff in his head that you know people even if
(27:11):
they didn't saying he just making things up in his
own head. In the docs series The Last Dance, Michael
Jordan reveals that he repeatedly makes up slights and insults
to motivate himself and gain an edge I practiced many
other players have since adopted over the years. Of course,
the criticism about Anthony and his pro day shooting performance
is very real, and Anthony can't help but hear it.
(27:35):
Even for Aunt just listen to people say, oh, he's no.
One pig, he's the best player. And then as you
get closer and closer and closer you do the Pro day.
Oh he didn't look good. He looks out of shape
in his workouts. When I'm near to watching workout or
when he's talking to me, he's always got a chip
on his shoulders, you know, being in the gym or
(27:56):
running up and down the court shooting saying, hey, they say,
ain't in shape. All right, I'm sure. Just just taking
that little bit, putting it in your head and and
just ramming it through. Just having some motivation. Like we
said that the grades have to have. I think you
need those things to be a great player. I just
really do. After This edge doesn't come from insults or
(28:19):
imaginary slights. And although events like the Pro Day might
add to the chip on his shoulder, that need to
prove himself and to take out his anger and pain
on the court comes from a very specific place. He
hasn't had the easiest run of luck with you know,
family members passing at an early age and in quick succession,
and I'm sure he has really tough moments, but he's
(28:41):
always kind of used it as a positive and like
a reminder that like nothing is promised, and like he's
only used it as fuel to become more laser than
on as he says, making them proud and you know,
achieving his dreams because that was his promise to them,
that promise, those dreams and how they turned Anthony Edwards
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into the potential number one pick in the NBA all
coming up next undrafted. Basically him and my mom was
like best friend. We are best friends with my mom
even da were sitting in the church and I was
(29:23):
sitting in my scene. Came walking in with the siblings.
He helped gel. He didn't, he didn't, you know, he
didn't break down. What do you think I'll give this superstar?
You can tell, Bro, you're looking on top of the here,
why not? Your mom can't say? And you know ce Coleman,
you know Steven ray Hail Drafted as a production of
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tree Fort Media, Clutch Sports Group, and I Heart Radio.
The executive producers are Kelly Garner, Lisa Ammerman, Eric Slott,
Sean to Tone l Kie and me Keegan Michael Key.
The series is produced and written by Eric Winer. Jared
Brom is our coordinating producer. Trey McCain is our associate
for user. Tom Monahan is our senior audio engineer. Mixed
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